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  29th Nov 2023, 9:30 AM#1  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

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Not sure if these two qualify but I believe that they were at the very end of the 1940's probably going into the new decade.....Both were recorded on London but have proved impossible to find as yet.....Any help will be much appreciated......."Wedding Bells" by Freddie Hall and "Brother Bill/Sugar Baby" by Dave Appell Trio


  1st Dec 2023, 11:06 PM#2  REPORT  
Whyperion SUBS

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The independent had a comprehensive obit about Dave Apell and recording on Decca
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/dave-appell-songwriter-arranger-and-producer-who-wrote-let-s-twist-again-and-produced-tie-a-yellow-ribbon-9916665.html

https://rec.music.rock-pop-r-b.1950s.narkive.com/gYayvEUG/obscure-50-s-r-r-artists-1-dave-appell-the-applejacks
quotes Brother Bill as London 30107 (which is before they signed to Decca , so the Independent missed a bit there

Edited by Whyperion on 1st Dec 2023, 11:17 PM

  8th Dec 2023, 7:30 AM#3  REPORT  
carryonsidney

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I don't think the info for Dave Apell as London 30107 can be correct?. London [UK] starts at L.501 and never reached 30000+ . There are some London 78's from Argentina that start 300.... ? I wondered if 30107 was actually a matrix number? (stills seems to high though).


  9th Dec 2023, 11:51 AM#4  REPORT  
okun69

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I think they are referencing the U.S. London label which would put the recording around 1950 between these that are in the U.S. London 78 Discography.

Kay Armen A St . Louis Blues / B: I've Got Misery London 30103

Jimmy Lytell And The Dixieland All Stars A: High Society / B: Basin Street Blues

London 30110


  9th Dec 2023, 12:38 PM#5  REPORT  
KeithS SUBS

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Dave Appell "Brother Bill /Sugar Baby" reviewed Here as London 685


  19th Dec 2023, 9:06 PM#6  REPORT  
carryonsidney

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Found an example of what i meant
Kay Armen – Just Say I Love Him / Don't Play With Fire on London
- 764 is the 78 cat (Made in England export to USA
- 30185 is the cat for the USA 45 rpm version.


  20th Dec 2023, 3:11 PM#7  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

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Mike Wilson1 wrote:
Not sure if these two qualify but I believe that they were at the very end of the 1940's probably going into the new decade.....Both were recorded on London but have proved impossible to find as yet.....Any help will be much appreciated......."Wedding Bells" by Freddie Hall and "Brother Bill/Sugar Baby" by Dave Appell Trio

Many thanks for finding "Wedding Bells" but I have still drawn a blank on getting either of the Dave Appell sides....The catalogue numbers I got from the official London catalogue so I'd presume that they would be correct.


  23rd Dec 2023, 11:56 PM#8  REPORT  
Spinning Shellac 1959

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Hi Mike, Never came across the Dave Appell Trio 78 on London, most of these early U.K London 78s are seldom ever seen except the hits. Can be very elusive but need a lot of luck to find one. Stay hopeful. Malcolm


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