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| 7th May 2013, 6:43 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | the Flea Member since Aug 2012 377 Points | I've just put up a 78 of Buddy Holly (I'm Lookin' For Someone To Love) and one of the sides has a letter "M" near the spindle hole, is it a tax code or something else entirely ? |
| 7th May 2013, 8:34 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5847 Points Moderator | Isn't there a T as well? MT is a tax code from 1963 and on. |
| 7th May 2013, 8:44 PM | #3 REPORT | |
| the Flea Member since Aug 2012 377 Points | No, its 1957 so deffo not MT. Its just the "M" on its own and of the 6 copies I have of it, the M is on 4 and always on the That'll Be The Day side. Hey that's spooky two green Polydors Edited by the Flea on 7th May 2013, 8:47 PM |
| 7th May 2013, 9:05 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5847 Points Moderator | It sure is. Lucky it's not the same. It has been too good. Are you sure about the year of release? Can't it be a later one? |
| 7th May 2013, 9:41 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| the Flea Member since Aug 2012 377 Points | Deffo 1957 |
| 7th May 2013, 10:52 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5847 Points Moderator | OK. Then it must be something else. I'll check around a little, and see if something comes up. |
| 8th May 2013, 7:42 AM | #7 REPORT | |
 | KeithS SUBS ● Member since Dec 2009 12560 Points Moderator | Is it the M out of the Buckingham code..denoting the master number.Does an M also appear in the dead wax? |
| 8th May 2013, 7:48 AM | #8 REPORT | |
| the Flea Member since Aug 2012 377 Points | Not checked the runout, so I'll check it when I get home from work ;-) |
| 8th May 2013, 1:34 PM | #9 REPORT | |
 | getalife So many questions, so few answers Member since Nov 2010 882 Points Moderator | Ebay has Q72255 "Jezebel" Lenny Eversong with a M on it, so your's is not a miss print, but can not find any info for you.http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Leny-Eversong-Jezabel-78-Vogue-Coral-Q72255-EX-1950s-10-inch-78rpm-/00/s/OTAwWDEyMDA=/$(KGrHqFHJCcFBn99nf5wBQecqT7(hg~~60_12.JPG Edited by getalife on 8th May 2013, 2:32 PM |
| 8th May 2013, 5:22 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| the Flea Member since Aug 2012 377 Points | Nothing in the runoff area is different to the non-M versions. I have had a look at my other copies in strong light, just to see if there was a faint M, but nothing. I think it just happens to be sheer luck that my four copies have M on the same track. I've seen two Teresa Brewer 78's (London, April 1956), 1 with a letter M on the "A" side and the other with it on the "B" side. There is no mention anywhere of an M tax code Digging further, there is a letter H on both sides of teresa Brewer's 1950 record "Copenhagen". Edited by the Flea on 8th May 2013, 5:24 PM |
| 8th May 2013, 6:08 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| the Flea Member since Aug 2012 377 Points | Right, it's definitely not a tax code or a year of manufacture as I've seen a Bill Haley 78 (Crazy Man Crazy) made in August of 53 with the letter M. I wonder if it represents a pressing plant or machine. Does anyone know anything about Decca (Coral, RCA, London, and others) that could shed some light on this ? |
| 9th May 2013, 11:21 AM | #12 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5847 Points Moderator | Does the H appear on the runout. There should be a single letter on each side. Not neseccearily the same letter. |
| 9th May 2013, 11:49 AM | #13 REPORT | |
| the Flea Member since Aug 2012 377 Points | Can't speak about Teresa Brewer or Bill Haley but there is no letter M, H or otherwise on Buddy Holly's. There is only the matrix, mother, and Stamper detail on the Buddy Holly 78's :edit: The full runout markings are thus from:- I'm Looking For Someone To Love side:- 12 noon: 3pm: KB 6pm: CA VC-102021-1 9pm: 1 That'll Be The Day side:- 12 noon: RT 3pm: BN 6pm: CA VC-102022-1 9pm: 2 The CA is missing on some of the records and RT might be missing on some of the records, its very faintly stamped on all of them. Edited by the Flea on 9th May 2013, 3:30 PM |
| 9th May 2013, 11:55 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5847 Points Moderator | The KB=41 & BN=16 is probably the stamper codes. Taken from the so called BUCKINGHAM method. |
| 12th May 2013, 2:14 PM | #15 REPORT | |
 | Tony P Member since Feb 2011 1498 Points | This seems to be similar to a letter N which I commented on before. See http://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/l1228 |
| 12th May 2013, 4:22 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| Whyperion SUBS Too Many Records , Too Little Time Member since Jan 2013 306 Points | Its in a different place , the Printed N , +P or + 1P are tax codes for Decca group , a slugged M is a bit of an unknown as it not a known UK tax coding for either grouping and its not in a normal place. Are some contracted out pressings I wonder ? |
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