Number: 1130486 THUMBNAIL Uploaded By: AlbertSwaps Description: Turquoise front (First Issue) (rough image -not a scan) |
Number: 1130487 Uploaded By: AlbertSwaps Description: Turquiose back (rough image -not a scan) |
Number: 455625 Uploaded By: carryonsidney Description: Front Cover (Second Issue - Standard Cover) |
Number: 455627 Uploaded By: carryonsidney Description: A |
Number: 455628 Uploaded By: carryonsidney Description: B |
Number: 1130540 Uploaded By: AlbertSwaps Description: early pressing s1 (note -bad 3d pixel bending- please replace) |
Number: 1130542 Uploaded By: AlbertSwaps Description: early pressing s2 (note -bad 3d pixel bending- please replace) |
Number: 1130553 Uploaded By: AlbertSwaps Description: Superhype credit S1 (note -bad 3D pixel bending on image- please replace) |
Number: 1130554 Uploaded By: AlbertSwaps Description: Superhype credit S2 (note -bad 3D pixel bending on image- please replace) |
Number: 1332288 Uploaded By: Focus B Description: 1971 issue with different typeface 1 |
Number: 1332289 Uploaded By: Focus B Description: 1971 issue with different typeface 2 |
Number: 1130492 Uploaded By: AlbertSwaps Description: Turquoise close up |
Number: 3744148 Uploaded By: albert Description: Comparison, turquoise original on right, later 1970s issue on left |
Number: 455626 HIDDEN Uploaded By: carryonsidney Description: Back Cover |
Number: 1331503 HIDDEN Uploaded By: Focus B Description: Inner advertising sleeve. Early 1971 |
Number: 1331504 HIDDEN Uploaded By: Focus B Description: Early 1971 Inner advertising sleeve 2 |
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albert 20th Dec 2024
| | I finally had the opportunity to do a side by side comparison of the original turquoise/cyan cover with a later 1970s pressing, see the new pic. Thank you to Ben at The Little Record Shop for allowing me to take pics.
My idea was to use photoshop to analyse colouring on the back cover sepia style photo, to see if cyan is in the mix. Unfortunately results were inconclusive, cyan registers very low on selected areas of both covers and may only be there due to the lighting when the pics were taken.
However, you may be interested to see how far the image degraded after only a few years. On the original cyan sleeve the back cover (right) has a nicely clear and detailed image, whereas on the later pressing (mid 1970s) the image is faded and lacking in detail.
On my own early pressing the back photo image looks identical to that on the cyan sleeve, it is clear and detailed, ...which is a disappointment as I was hoping to see at least some degradation in the quality. |
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Record-Finder 11th Mar 2024
| | Never seen an original lp of turquoise sleeve. I own a copy of the orange lettering cover not sure if it's original or reissue. I own a copy of the unofficial release in blue cover.
I am looking for an original copy turqoise cover and record in fair condition or better.
Anyone have a spare original to sell? |
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deepinder cheema 4th Apr 2018
| | It looks like that the first pressing is firstly with Orange lettering [same as the US release which preceded it]
and something happened ... it became turquoise. Then back to Orange again.
In the light of this being true.. does it make sense of orange sleeves and Superhype discs? |
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VinylSid 9th Nov 2017
| | Turquoise text copy fetched £562.00 on ebay this week |
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deepinder cheema 8th May 2017
| | Yes you are right. Looks like the wide rather ugly typeface was introduced after Nov '71 |
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Focus B 7th May 2017
| | I've noticed the label uploads for Yes' "Fragile" album having to older narrow typeface however!
I'm sure my copy of IV has the narrow typeface. I'll have a look in due course. |
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deepinder cheema 6th May 2017
| | I noticed the new typeface on the 4th album released November 1971. How can we determine when the typeface changed? It would be possible if other Atlantic releases before reflected this. |
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Focus B 6th May 2017
| | Added labels from early 1971 issue with different typeface. Interestingly the matrix for Side One is 588171 //1 with Side Two 588171 *4 (* in place of inverted triangle). Inverted triangle usually reserved for mono records! Interesting to note the publishing credit remains Warner Bros/7 Arts which may suggest the label images uploaded by Albert Swaps could be later still.
Interesting to hear what matrixes are used for the other copies uploaded. |
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Focus B 5th May 2017
| | Added Polydor advertising inner sleeve. With "The Yes Album" included but not "Led Zeppelin IV" my copy of this album must date from early 1971. Noticed too the typeface on the labels differ from those already uploaded. I'll include my 1971 labels in due course. |
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AlbertSwaps 13th Aug 2016
| | Added some images of the turquoise/cyan sleeve for comparison. Thinking the sepia tone on the back would be a mix of M & Y colour plates, then replacing the cyan colour on the front with orange they would presumably be cutting the costs of printing.
EDIT:
It occurred to me that I can do some analysis myself using photoshop, so loading up my pictures I sampled the turquoise colour and checked the CMYK settings which showed C=67%, M=0%, Y=27%, K=0%, Then I grabbed carryonsidney's cover and sampled the orange which showed C=7%, M=63%, Y=91%, K=1%. Assuming that there are some errors with the colour reproduction on camera shots then I think the results are quite conclusive. However on the back sleeve taking a colour sample from Mr Plant's shoulder gave somewhat less conclusive results; settings on my picture give C=25%, M=72%, Y=88%, K=14%, carryonsidney's cover C=19%, M=63%, Y=64%, K=4%, I was rather hoping to see Cyan drop to near zero.
I think more tests are needed with better source material. |
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Magic Marmalade 20th Jul 2016
| | Is the sleeve for this one piece of folded, printed card?
I ask because if you are right deepinder, then the absence of those colours would be apparent on the coloured back of the sleeve if printed as one long sheet, then folded and glued.
...Surely the "sepia" or orangey tone on the back would also appear turquoise? |
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deepinder cheema 21st Nov 2015
| | Led Zeppelin was released in Jan 1969 in the USA. The sleeve was printed offset litho with I assume all 4 plates CMYK so we get the red/orange lettering. The UK sleeve was printed by MacNeil press and Led Zeppelin was released in March 1969 in the UK. I can only assume that the printers mistakenly used the Cyan and Black ( K ) plate only - which as soon as it was spotted the presses where set up with magenta and yellow plates to make good the intention of the sleeve designer or Jimmy Page. The fact that the US issue is correct and has always been suggests to me that the 'Turquoise' lettering is simply a mistake of the Cyan plate standing alone with K as discrete colours. I have not seen this mentioned in any of the vast literature about Led Zeppelin, so perhaps someone can remark on this theory which I'm endebted to albert for nudging me the hint over on 45cat website. It would be cool if a printer can test the soundness of the theory. |
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carryonsidney 14th Sep 2013
| | Pictures uploaded from the 2nd press, orange lettering, "Warner bros" publishing credit. |
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