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Stuckinthe1950s 25th May 2021
| | The record displayed here with "LONG PLAY" at the bottom of the label but without "TRADE MARKS" and "CAMDEN, N.J." in the rim, is a reissue. It was released somewhere between November 1959 and 1963.
Until halfway November 1959 all RCA Victor releases (all speeds) had "TRADE MARKS" and "CAMDEN, N.J." in the rim. From halfway November 1959 onwards there's no "TRADE MARKS" (replaced then by "TMK") and "CAMDEN, N.J." in the rim anymore. |
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clapper987 14th Sep 2020
| | Added mono cover reissued about 1961 without pink and green logo, also added rare MONO label variation from 1963 |
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clapper987 26th Jun 2020
| | Added 2 label variations |
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GimmeVinyl 13th Dec 2019
| | Ok.. as for the Nipper argument.. seems like Emile Berliner had acquired the US rights to Nipper in 1900, and became the trademark of the Victor Talking Machine Company in 1901. The Gramophone Company used an angel scribing grooves onto a disc on their label at first.. and didn't use Nipper on their record labels until February, 1909... So much for the notion of leasing Nipper.. |
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GimmeVinyl 13th Dec 2019
| | Hmm.. one more thought here.. Neil states that gramophones and records were the last thing on RCA's mind.. kind a beg to differ on that.. because General Electric owned NBC, as well as RCA..and what better place to find music and performers than the Victor record division, because you already own the rights... That is the biggest reason CBS purchased Columbia Records back from the American Record Corporation in 1938.... |
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GimmeVinyl 13th Dec 2019
| | An interesting argument, Niel.. but.. Victor was using the Nipper trademark before and after the sale to RCA. Look at the bottom of the label of a Victor or a Bluebird 78 of the 30's and 40's and notice the "Made by RCA Manufacturing Company, Camden NJ". Why would RCA stop using a well known and trusted trademark? An exception to this were the RCA "transcription program" discs of the early 30's, which were the first 33 1/3 rpm records offered to the American public, that had the RCA "meatball" and omitted both the Victor and Nipper trademarks. The RCA meatball did finally appear on both Victor and Bluebird 78s in 1943. Victor and Bluebird were finally supplanted in 1946 by the RCA Victor label, keeping Nipper and the wording "His Master's Voice". As for the the Capitol side of things, Capitol started back in 1942 and wasn't a part of EMI, until purchased by EMI in 1955. The Capitol trademark of the Capitol building in D.C. is still a well known and respected trademark in its own right. |
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Neil Forbes 15th Jan 2015
| | The circular "Button" RCA logo should have, by rights, been the only trademark RCA could use in its home market alongside the Victor logo, which was simply the word in a fancy font. The "Nipper" trademark(dog and gramophone) was the property of The Gramophone Company of England, who leased the trademark to the Victor Talking Machine Co., of Camden, New Jersey. When some reps from RCA(then not much more than a division of General Electric) came sniffing around the Victor plant in 1929, they wanted the plant to make radios. Gramophones and records were the last thing they were interested in. The people at The Gramophone Co. in England should've stepped in at that point and told RCA: "You can buy the plant and the Victor name, we don't own them, but we DO own the Nipper trademark and it reverts to us!" Several years later, the rightful user of the Nipper(HMV) brand should be Capitol Industries as the US SUBSIDIARY of EMI. I stress Subsidiary because it is a lesser status than that of a division, which the Australian, New Zealand and European branches of EMI are. |
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Bill Fick 15th Jan 2015
| | Yes, to countries where RCA and His Master's Voice were separate companies, & the Nipper logo couldn't be used. |
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caseellerbroek SUBS 13th Jan 2015
| | Added a couple more label images with an RCA paste-over, although I'm not sure where they should be. The record was inside an Israeli reissue of Elvis' first LP. I also have this "paste-over" on an American "Girls! Girls! Girls!", also bought in Israel. Was this an export version? |
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caseellerbroek SUBS 19th Nov 2014
| | Added another set of images. Would this be the the "florescent" lettering version?. Labels have different typesetting, but the back looks the same. |
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fixbutte 27th Oct 2014
| | Thanks for pointing this out, janiejjones. As I began buying LPs in Germany in the mid-70s, I can confirm all that you said. I have no idea how that sticker got to the front of this copy, but I'm sure that is was not until 20 years after its original release.
Meanwhile I have compared it with other cover images on the web and produced a sticker-free front cover (nicoldo64's ahistorical sticker cover image now hidden).
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janiejjones 27th Oct 2014
| | How did that sticker get to the front of an quite original looking 56 pressing? They were used in our local cheapo-racks about 1975, omitting the "DM" for the then current German currency, AMS the name of the distributor, forgot what it meant. Never saw them used for 2nd hand stuff, only new warehouse stock. One of the few true temps-perdu-moments on here recently, as these stickers, alongisde a golden variety from another organisation, are all gone now, but graced album covers from the very beginnings of my collection, earnings from the first ever employment being eaten up that way. |
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