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7th Aug 2022
78 RPM
Maud Powell - Thais
Perfect thanks!

I appreciate you taking the time to explain all of that.

Alan

alan8648 SUBS
7th Aug 2022
78 RPM
Maud Powell - Thais
Aha! I think I might understand.

Do I have this right?

On the site, Date means Original Release date of the recording.
So for this record, the recording on it has an Original Release date of 1909.
So that's the Date to enter on the site.

Labels on the other hand, evolved over time, so one could say - This particular record was sold around 1914-1915. But that's not the Date we enter on the site.
Because that date is when the record was sold, not the date of the recording on that record.

Thanks,
Alan

alan8648 SUBS
6th Aug 2022
78 RPM
Maud Powell - Thais
One more thing...Not sure if it makes deciding harder or easier...

When I checked my "Victor Red Seal Discography" book, there are two releases of 74135.

74135-1 - 19-may-1909 and shows "Falkenstein, George - Piano" - which is what's on my label.

74135-2 - 10-jul-1914 shows "Harp" instead - which is not on my label.

So there's that.

And I do really appreciate your help.
Although you guys are nice enough to figure out and date for me, I'm trying to learn to do that myself.

Thanks!
Alan

alan8648 SUBS
6th Aug 2022
78 RPM
Maud Powell - Thais
Thanks Mike!

Maybe you can help me out with dating - I'm just going by what I've found on the web.

So says the internet...(ha)

From 1908-1913 was the "patents" label era, that had Victor-Record on the label instead of just Victor.

From 1914-1924(ish) was the Bat Wing label period, that had the bat wing and just Victor on the label. Many changes happened over time throughout that period.

Early on in that period, from 1914-1915, the word Victor was on the machine on the label, then in 1915(ish) and after, the word Victor on the machine dropped off of the label.

What I think is that since the "Victor" on the machine is said to exist on labels from 1914-1915, and there is a matrix number for that year, my record was released in 1914 or after, not in 1909 like I originally thought.

Because - if the record was released in 1909 - I would think it would have the "patents" label having Victor-Record on it.

Does that sound right?

Thanks,
Alan

alan8648 SUBS
4th Aug 2022
78 RPM
Neapolitan Trio - O Sole Mio (My Sunshine) / Addio A Napoli (Farewell To Naples)
Hi Otto,

The A side has a 1 (one) and the B side has a 10 (ten) I couldn't find a way to attach images or would have done that. Is there a way to add additional images that I'm not finding?

alan8648 SUBS
12th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Arthur Pryor's Band - Forest Whispers / Battleship Connecticut March
On both sides, the catalog number is stamped, but nothing else that I can see.

alan8648 SUBS
9th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Edward P. Kimbal - War March Of The Priests / Behold God The Lord
This is a 12" record. I entered 10" by mistake.

(Mod. comment: corrected)

alan8648 SUBS
9th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Conway's Band - The Southerner March / The Thunderer March
Added this as a 10". It's actually a 12". {Edited. Mod.}

alan8648 SUBS
8th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Tommy Clayton - Whispering Hope / The Blue Skirt Waltz
I added it just now.

Don't know about the year but guessing 1948.

alan8648 SUBS
8th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Tommy Clayton - Whispering Hope / The Blue Skirt Waltz
Will do.

Also added a Victor (Victor-Record) 16113 today - you should check it out.
It's a cool record, and also has a bonus oddity that makes is unique

alan8648 SUBS
7th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Tommy Clayton - Whispering Hope / The Blue Skirt Waltz
Hi xiphophilos!

I also have a copy of Royale 8014. But it's this:

A:
Bar Room Polka (Vaughn Horton)
Tommy Clayton and String Band; 113 (V1090)

B:
The Blue Skirt Waltz (Mitchell Parish, Vaclav Blaha)
Tommy Clayton and String Band; 113 (V1091)

alan8648 SUBS
25th Sep 2021
78 RPM
Adelina Patti - Robin Adair
Oh my God I'm dumb.

I was asking if this record was released in 1905/1906 and it has a patent date of 1912 on it.

On the bright side, my wife had a great laugh when I told her this :-)

Thanks xiphophilos!

alan8648 SUBS
23rd Sep 2021
78 RPM
Adelina Patti - Robin Adair
That's good to know thanks! I just copied what I found on DAHR.

alan8648 SUBS
23rd Sep 2021
78 RPM
Adelina Patti - Robin Adair
Looks like my item was edited or I got it wrong - This is a 12" single-side. {Edited. Mod.}

alan8648 SUBS
22nd Sep 2021
78 RPM
Harry Lauder - The Wee Hoose 'Mang The Heather
Thanks for the updates!

alan8648 SUBS
22nd Sep 2021
78 RPM
Harry Lauder - The Wee Hoose 'Mang The Heather
I'm not entirely sure of the release date. From what I've found this record appears to be a repress produced from Fall 1917 to Sprint 1918. But I've found conflicting information. The original release appears to be 1/15/1913 or 1/15/1914. The Library of Congress shows a different label for this record, having the 1913 date. If anyone has verified information regarding the release date of this particular record please comment and list the source so that I can update the item. Thanks!



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