alan8648 7th Aug 2022 | | 78 RPMMaud Powell - Thais (1909) | Perfect thanks!
I appreciate you taking the time to explain all of that.
Alan
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alan8648 7th Aug 2022 | | 78 RPMMaud Powell - Thais (1909) | Aha! I think I might understand.
Do I have this right?
On the site, Date means Original Release date of the recording.
So for this record, the recording on it has an Original Release date of 1909.
So that's the Date to enter on the site.
Labels on the other hand, evolved over time, so one could say - This particular record was sold around 1914-1915. But that's not the Date we enter on the site.
Because that date is when the record was sold, not the date of the recording on that record.
Thanks,
Alan
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alan8648 6th Aug 2022 | | 78 RPMMaud Powell - Thais (1909) | One more thing...Not sure if it makes deciding harder or easier...
When I checked my "Victor Red Seal Discography" book, there are two releases of 74135.
74135-1 - 19-may-1909 and shows "Falkenstein, George - Piano" - which is what's on my label.
74135-2 - 10-jul-1914 shows "Harp" instead - which is not on my label.
So there's that.
And I do really appreciate your help.
Although you guys are nice enough to figure out and date for me, I'm trying to learn to do that myself.
Thanks!
Alan
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alan8648 6th Aug 2022 | | 78 RPMMaud Powell - Thais (1909) | Thanks Mike!
Maybe you can help me out with dating - I'm just going by what I've found on the web.
So says the internet...(ha)
From 1908-1913 was the "patents" label era, that had Victor-Record on the label instead of just Victor.
From 1914-1924(ish) was the Bat Wing label period, that had the bat wing and just Victor on the label. Many changes happened over time throughout that period.
Early on in that period, from 1914-1915, the word Victor was on the machine on the label, then in 1915(ish) and after, the word Victor on the machine dropped off of the label.
What I think is that since the "Victor" on the machine is said to exist on labels from 1914-1915, and there is a matrix number for that year, my record was released in 1914 or after, not in 1909 like I originally thought.
Because - if the record was released in 1909 - I would think it would have the "patents" label having Victor-Record on it.
Does that sound right?
Thanks,
Alan
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alan8648 4th Aug 2022 | | 78 RPMNeapolitan Trio - O Sole Mio (My Sunshine) / Addio A Napoli (Farewell To Naples) (1915) | Hi Otto,
The A side has a 1 (one) and the B side has a 10 (ten) I couldn't find a way to attach images or would have done that. Is there a way to add additional images that I'm not finding?
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alan8648 12th Oct 2021 | | 78 RPMArthur Pryor's Band - Forest Whispers / Battleship Connecticut March (1909) | On both sides, the catalog number is stamped, but nothing else that I can see.
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alan8648 9th Oct 2021 | | 78 RPMEdward P. Kimbal - War March Of The Priests / Behold God The Lord (1927) | This is a 12" record. I entered 10" by mistake.
(Mod. comment: corrected)
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alan8648 9th Oct 2021 | | 78 RPMConway's Band - The Southerner March / The Thunderer March (1916) | Added this as a 10". It's actually a 12". {Edited. Mod.}
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alan8648 8th Oct 2021 | | 78 RPMTommy Clayton - Whispering Hope / The Blue Skirt Waltz | I added it just now.
Don't know about the year but guessing 1948.
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alan8648 8th Oct 2021 | | 78 RPMTommy Clayton - Whispering Hope / The Blue Skirt Waltz | Will do.
Also added a Victor (Victor-Record) 16113 today - you should check it out.
It's a cool record, and also has a bonus oddity that makes is unique
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alan8648 7th Oct 2021 | | 78 RPMTommy Clayton - Whispering Hope / The Blue Skirt Waltz | Hi xiphophilos!
I also have a copy of Royale 8014. But it's this:
A:
Bar Room Polka (Vaughn Horton)
Tommy Clayton and String Band; 113 (V1090)
B:
The Blue Skirt Waltz (Mitchell Parish, Vaclav Blaha)
Tommy Clayton and String Band; 113 (V1091)
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alan8648 25th Sep 2021 | | 78 RPMAdelina Patti - Robin Adair (1906) | Oh my God I'm dumb.
I was asking if this record was released in 1905/1906 and it has a patent date of 1912 on it.
On the bright side, my wife had a great laugh when I told her this :-)
Thanks xiphophilos!
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alan8648 23rd Sep 2021 | | 78 RPMAdelina Patti - Robin Adair (1906) | That's good to know thanks! I just copied what I found on DAHR.
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alan8648 23rd Sep 2021 | | 78 RPMAdelina Patti - Robin Adair (1906) | Looks like my item was edited or I got it wrong - This is a 12" single-side. {Edited. Mod.}
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alan8648 22nd Sep 2021 | | 78 RPMHarry Lauder - The Wee Hoose 'Mang The Heather (1913) | Thanks for the updates!
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alan8648 22nd Sep 2021 | | 78 RPMHarry Lauder - The Wee Hoose 'Mang The Heather (1913) | I'm not entirely sure of the release date. From what I've found this record appears to be a repress produced from Fall 1917 to Sprint 1918. But I've found conflicting information. The original release appears to be 1/15/1913 or 1/15/1914. The Library of Congress shows a different label for this record, having the 1913 date. If anyone has verified information regarding the release date of this particular record please comment and list the source so that I can update the item. Thanks!
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