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deezee 9th Oct 2018		78 RPM Curt And Faye Bartmess - A Falling Star / Pray For The 21	Can't be before July 1953 going by HBRALLAN's very feasible theory, so it should be later 1953 or into 1954. He copyrighted it himself but permitted radio play. Maybe he was tired of paying 4Star Sales and the like. It looks like a Coast pressing of the period too, He told a friend that it was lifted by Jimmy Newman to become a 1957 hit, at least the tune. I've never heard it and my friend never heard Newman's 1957 hit. But the name of that was " A Fallen Star" --- not "Falling". If so, then Bobby Denton who first wrote and recorded it on Tune would have been the culprit. Never heard that but he became a politician later if that means anything....(smile). He used to have a website. ADDED: Well, James Joiner (owner of Tune) actually gets the writer's credit if that means anything. He also 'wrote' for Junior Thompson on the previous and first on the label. DJ's date stamp for Denton disc is April 5, 1957.
deezee 2nd Sep 2018		78 RPM Floyd Jones - Floyd's Blue / Any Old Lonesome Day (1955)	All VeeJay releases show the original session masters, same as Chess and many more. We are making a mistake by taking the lowest number as the "A" side as we do for most of the UK issues. Even there it doesn't always hold true, even on London who sometimes picked up batches of sides. Example Jerry Lee's first Sun EP which contained "Mean Woman Blues". London didn't use the EP but put it on the flip of "Great Balls Of Fire". So the higher number for "Great Balls Of Fire" means it's the flip. Yup! No doubt... Except everybody here knows that is nonsense and that Decca (and Sun) put it out as the "A" side from the start. There's more cases like this with, including Lewis, Richard, Domino, Berry and so many more. Many EMI releases showed the US session numbers. Is there any point in checking all these things if they are ignored? Is the task too big by this time? (no sarcasm intended - I know this is a big job). Anyway,the corrected Floyd Jones title so thanks for that.
deezee 1st Sep 2018		78 RPM Jacoby Bros. - Warmed Over Love / Cannonball (1953)	This is just about the easiest to find of the early TNTs and no wonder. Super harmony duo on two up-tempo sides with wonderful cohesion from the band. The earlier TNTs are good as are the later Columbias but this is a real gem if you love great Hillbilly music. If you don't mind reduced presence, lower level and a touch of swish, the 45's not impossible to find either but lacks the fantastic label design.
deezee 2nd May 2018		78 RPM The Crew Cuts - Angels In The Sky / Seven Days (1956)	The labels are of an American copy. The UK number in the listing is MT 100, which would have been the very first from Pye after they took over UK distribution. Only one title is the same, so Pye obviously decided to combine 2 US "A" sides. The other US side is from 70782.Check Crew Cuts' listed US 78s. Hopefully someone has MT 100, the very first Pye release from Mercury. [reported to Mods].
deezee 14th Apr 2018		78 RPM Jerry And Peggy - The Carolina Sunshine Girls (1951)	OK - confusion here! Most of the Folk-Star labels on this site are the Eddie Shuler label. This one is just one of a roughly equal number of records put out as a custom subsidiary of Rich'R'Tone which was run by Jim Stanton out of Tennessee. There is no link at all between the two. They seem to have appeared almost simultaneously but indications show that Stanton's is the first with their 500 series, followed by a 600 series. This material is Hillbilly, Bluegrass and Sacred. Both labels highly collectable. There's no doubt that one of these labels copied the other. 604 has one star but others have 4 or 6. Some are on a crude white label like this. Could the moderator please start a new listing for this with an explanation something like I've written here. I'm also placing this note under GF-1198. [Labels have been separated and provided with label bios. Mod.]
deezee 2nd Apr 2018		78 RPM Alvis Wayne - Swing Bop Boogie / Sleep, Rock-A-Roll Rock-A-Baby (1956)	These are unique and fantastic atmospheric recordings. BEWARE: If you have these sides on any reissue, check for prominent slap bass. If you hear it, that means it came from a release put out by Ronny Weiser in the early 70s or one of his Rollin' Rock 45s!! The original has an electric bass, not always my favorite instrument, but played in very inventive style on this record. Fantastic effect with the echo but Ronny in his wisdom thought he'd "improve it". With respect, some rockers spoil the original gems, some add echo or speed up the record [both on YouTube and on reissues].
deezee 18th Mar 2018		78 RPM Floyd Jones - Floyd's Blue / Any Old Lonesome Day (1955)	Often mis-titled in articles and reissues as "Floyd's Blues". This inst is definitely the B-side. Real VJ master no.
deezee 18th Mar 2018		78 RPM Jimmy Reed And His Trio - I Found My Baby / Jimmies Boogie (1954)	Real title should be " I Found My Baby Gone" which Jimmy said was his first song. Vee-Jay's title has the exact opposite meaning. Give a listen. Albert King far more likely for drums. Wilkerson on next session.
deezee 18th Mar 2018		78 RPM Jimmy Reed And His Trio - I Found My Baby / Jimmies Boogie (1954)	A-Side undoubtedly I FOUND MY BABY. Matrix nos.are real VJ master numbers. [Have switched the track order, which is also supported by the Billboard review. Mod]
deezee 3rd Feb 2018		78 RPM Fats Domino - Detroit City Blues / The Fat Man (1950)	This is of course the first release by Fats but is listed third. Since fixbutte's comments citing the Jan 21 ad, RadioAl has added an even earlier ad from Jan 14. Here, it becomes absolutely clear that "Detroit City Blues" was intended as the A-Side but it was immediately turned over by the jocks and took off. I have also read this elsewhere but the ad proves it. I guess this is the way we list it? There's many more examples of this. Neil Forbes is confused by the master numbers as opposed to control numbers. Being real master numbers, they provide no clue to intended A & B sides. See comments for Fats' 5085, listed above this record, which discusses more on that common misunderstanding.
deezee 3rd Feb 2018		78 RPM Fats Domino - Hide Away Blues / She's My Baby (1950)	fatsfan is correct in placing "She's My Baby" as the "A" side. It is a common practice for these sites to automatically list the lower master as the "A" side. All Imperials and many other labels have have real master numbers as used in the sessions, which means that the number is no indication as to the intended "A" & "B" sides. This assumption started in the UK for labels like London which assigned their own matrix numbers, also known as control numbers. This is correct for many of them but if London took more than 2 numbers at once, often for an LP or EP, a number would be assigned for each track even though they weren't shown. Example would be Jerry Lee Lewis' where "Mean Woman Blues" has the lower number but the flip was beyond doubt always intended as the "A" side ("Great Balls Of Fire"). This happened because Sun had already sent the 4 tracks for his first EP which London didn't release but used 2 sides for flips. Several Fats couplings were also swapped around in a similar way.
deezee 3rd Feb 2018		78 RPM Fats Domino - Hey! La Bas Boogie / Brand New Baby (1950)	There is no ens(vcls) on "Brand New Baby". "Hey! Las Bas Boogie" was issued on LP and probably on most if not all later releases as "Hey! Las Bas".
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Rev. C. L. Franklin - The Lord's Prayer Part 1 / The Lord's Prayer Part 6 (1955)	Chess 71, 72, 73 made up one of many 3 disc/6 side albums released by both JVB and Chess. They sold well over a long period because Franklin was very popular over many years into the 60's LP era and well out of the Detroit area. JVB couldn't handle all the distribution themselves and Chess found it well worth while issuing, as I remember, all of them Meanwhile JVB still had distribution in their local territory and there was no way would Joe be selling him to Chess! Going by memory, I think the 78 albums were assigned numbers from 1 to 16 way up to the end of thee 78 era. From there the LP's continued the same number series, all still recorded by Joe Von Battle on location at New Bethel Baptist Church. These records were his bread and butter and were always shown prominently in his shop window displays. I don't think I ever saw 45 albums and the transition may have skipped over them. The 78 albums were in 6 parts of one sermon, so the LP with just one break would have been the perfect vehicle for the market.
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Rev. C. L. Franklin - The Lord's Prayer Part 1 / The Lord's Prayer Part 6 (1955)	This Chess 78 album set leased from JVB was one of many recorded by Joe Von Battle. They were issued on both labels using numbers from the single series.
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Muddy Waters - I'm A Natural Born Lover / Loving Man (1954)	More craziness on Chess labels after the bloopers in the Hillbilly Series above! Muddy wrote this one twice with himself! - M. Waters, M. Morganfield ! Maybe he wanted to be sure that nobody else had room to slip in his name...
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Jimmy Lee And Johnny Mathis - Can't You—Want You? / The Fun Is Over (1954)	I could have sworn the title was "Can't You -- Want You?". I've always read it "Won't" but I took a look at my 45 and it shows the same title. I'm sure that it's incorrect but will listen again. This record got sadly overlooked after their first on 4858 was a much covered hit. I'm guessing that all copies had the same error unless anyone can prove otherwise. Maybe we can give some blame to both the typesetters who either typed what was scrawled on a piece of paper and may have been semi-literate themselves. Or the error could have originated from scribble from Chess and the printers just set exactly what they saw. In this case, the masters for this series all came from Stan Lewis of Shreveport, La. but you'd think he'd want his own name to stand out well. Especially as didn't wright a word of it! But "This Is The Knight" on 4861 above must be the biggest blooper I've ever even though it was soon corrected because no copy I've ever seen has had that 'typo'. For another version of Chess label craziness see 1585 a few issues down.
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Willie Mabon - I Don´t Know / Worry Blues (1952)	After Parrot 1050 (Blue label) very briefly on Checker 1050 before Chess 1531.
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Two Honeys And A Cone - Love My Mom And Love My Pop / Twenty Robbers (1952)	What can this be? Maybe children or teenie novelty? Can the poster enlighten us?
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Harmonica Frank - Howlin' Tomcat / She's Done Moved (1952)	I have for years pondered what mx nos 1504-A and B link with.
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Rufus Thomas - No More Doggin' Around / Crazy 'Bout You Baby (1952)	label credits writer as R. Thomas - title as "No More Doging Around" (see label). Both sides say "And His Orchestra". This is his rarest and best Chess record.
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Rev. C. L. Franklin - The Prodigal Son (Part 1) / The Prodigal Son (Part 6) (1956)	Many sermons from JVB by Rev C. L. Franklin were issued for wider distribution on Chess, using original catalog numbers. This was part of a 3 record [6 side] album around 1956/7. #91 is in the listing. The other 2 are on Chess 92 [sides 3 & 4].
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM Robert Anderson - He Lives In Me / King Jesus (1952)	This is a repress from Premium which was going out of business. This practice of keeping original catalog numbers on Chess was also done with Miracle and the many sermons from JVB by Rev C. L. Franklin.
deezee 21st Jan 2018		78 RPM The Capris - God Only Knows / That's What You're Doing To Me (1953)	Gotham used abbreviations of the artist's band or group's name - some other labels like Aristocrat tried a separate number series for each artist. They always ended up hopelessly complicated. This is a later issue than the Terry and was an unintended duplication. Could have stood for lead singer or manager. They always used 2 or 3 letters, never just one. Added: The very early ones [mid-20s] used an Si-100 series not dedicated to specific artists.
deezee 5th Aug 2017		78 RPM Homer And Jethro - Gotta' See Mama Every Night / Oh, You Beautiful Doll (1949)	Early issue in the King Pop Series - later changed to maroon. Dixieland style band backing. An oddity in their discography.
deezee 17th Jul 2017		78 RPM Bobby "Blue" Bland - You've Got Bad Intentions / I Can't Put You Down, Baby (1956)	First record with his name as Bobby "Blue" Bland. This would stick throughout his career. Modern and Chess had released him as Robert Bland; first two Dukes as "Bobby Blue" Bland
deezee 17th Jul 2017		78 RPM St. Louis Jimmy - Drinkin' Woman / Why Work (1953)	St. Louis Jimmy And His Band recorded out of Chicago and nothing to do with David Mattis. By this time Robey was close to taking over the label as he puts a couple of his own masters on it.
deezee 17th Jul 2017		78 RPM Johnny Ace - My Song / Follow The Rule (1952)	Yes, the Tri-State are the earliest. I think they only appeared on G-1, R-1, R-101 and R-102. Not sure but I think also R-103. This was before Duke got involved. Their address was in Houston and they soon took over. See 45cat for more info.
deezee 17th Jul 2017		78 RPM Rosco Gordon - Tell Daddy / Hey, Fat Girl (1952)	As mentioned before as a correction for our very busy Mods, this record was first bought out by David J. Mattis in Memphis as R-1 along wit G-I at the beginning of the listing. Robey took up distribution and the number became R-101. As such it should be listed as two releases. The record was wild Rosco and sold well without being a major hit. I have never seen it as a 45 rpm. #102 by Johnny Ace was a major hit and appeared on 45 as well. 103 was a promising seller by Earl Forrest but again seems to only appear on 78rpm. His big hit would appear on R-108. From this point Robey took a big part in distribution and pressing and would soon 'steal' the label - and the artists. See also 45cat at #102.
deezee 28th Jun 2017		78 RPM Gospel Travelers - God's Chariot (Pt 1) / God's Chariot (Pt 2) (1952)	This and R-1 were the first 2 records to be released by David Mattis who started the label in Memphis. This is a rare one indeed and it could have a different color label.
deezee 28th Jun 2017		78 RPM Rosco Gordon - The Chicken (Dance With You) / Love For You Baby (1955)	Are the first scans on flat maroon (as #504 by the Miller Sisters) or is it just the lighting? Most 78s are shiny red. This record sold well without being a hit and the cheapo style labels were hastily done to avoid printing up the more expensive earlier style. Probably the mid-1956 movie with "The Chicken" featured created more demand for this last FLIP release.

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