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fixbutte
2nd Nov 2021
78 RPM
Fiddlin' John Carson - The Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane / The Old Hen Cackled And The Rooster's Going To Crow (1923)
Tony Russell's Country Music Records (2004), as mentioned by han enderman, also gives Atlanta, GA, as the recording place (date "c. June 14, 1923") for these two sides, the first ever recorded by Fiddlin' John Carson.

fixbutte
2nd Nov 2021
78 RPM
Fiddlin' John Carson - The Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane / The Old Hen Cackled And The Rooster's Going To Crow (1923)
Apparently not recorded in New York, see OKeh 8079 with the list of OKeh's June 1923 location recordings in Atlanta, GA.

Not released in July 1923 either but apparently in September 1923, see Talking Machine World, September 15, 1923, page 187, where also three other records with Atlanta location recordings are listed (by Warner's Seven Aces, Morehouse College Quartet and Fulcher's Novelty Orchestra).

fixbutte
2nd Nov 2021
78 RPM
Lucile Bogan - The Pawn Shop Blues / Grievious Blues (1923)
Changed the recording date of the Lucile Bogan side in the Notes from June 15, 1923. to "c. June 14, 1923" as well (before Fiddlin' John Carson's and Fannie Goosby's recordings anyway).

fixbutte
2nd Nov 2021
78 RPM
Clara Smith [Nr. 2] - Sand Raisin Blues / Wandering Boy Blues (1927)
This Clara Smith who recorded four sides for Black Patti in St. Paul, MN, in June 1927, is not the well-known Columbia artist but a different blues singer, see Brain Rust's Jazz and Ragtime Records (1897-1942), 6th edition, page 1576. See also title and liner notes of Clara Smith: Complete Recorded Works In Chronological Order, Volume 6 (1930-32) / Bonus Tracks: Clara Smith (No. 2) (1927).

Accordingly, I have moved this record to the newly added artist Clara Smith [Nr. 2].

fixbutte
2nd Nov 2021
78 RPM
Clara Smith [Nr. 2] - Clara Blues / After You've Gone Away (1927)
This Clara Smith who recorded four sides for Black Patti in St. Paul, MN, in June 1927, is not the well-known Columbia artist but a different blues singer, see Brain Rust's Jazz and Ragtime Records (1897-1942), 6th edition, page 1576. See also title and liner notes of Clara Smith: Complete Recorded Works In Chronological Order, Volume 6 (1930-32) / Bonus Tracks: Clara Smith (No. 2) (1927).

Accordingly, I have moved this record to the newly added artist Clara Smith [Nr. 2].

fixbutte
29th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Lucile Bogan - The Pawn Shop Blues / Grievious Blues (1923)
As said (and against the quote from Dixon's and Godrich's Recording The Blues) Lucille Bogan, "a popular blues singer from dear old Birmingham, Alabama" according to the Chicago Defender, was presumably well known to Ralph Peer and the OKeh executives, as "The Pawn Shop Blues" was apparently recorded after the four titles that were recorded in New York and released on OKeh 8071 and 8074. Another snippet from the Discography of OKeh Records, 1918-1934 lists these sides with some of the last matrix numbers allocated in May 1923.

fixbutte
29th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Lucile Bogan - The Pawn Shop Blues / Grievious Blues (1923)
Uploaded a snippet from the Discography of OKeh Records, 1918-1934 by Ross Laird and ‎Brian Rust with matrix numbers of all the Atlanta location recordings in June 1923. Considering the setting from Dixon's and Godrich's book, I doubt that they spent much more than one day for these recordings.

fixbutte
29th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Lucile Bogan - The Pawn Shop Blues / Grievious Blues (1923)
Other sources, including the YT video and the Online Discographical Project, date Goosby's side on June 20, 1923, which seems logical as well (later than Bogan's side).

On the other side, an early June 1923 date for the Atlanta recordings seems to contradict the sources that report on OKeh's location recording in Atlanta in mid-June 1923, see Recording the Blues, by Robert M. W. Dixon and John Godrich (1970), page 27:

Ralph Peer, son of a white Missouri storekeeper, was in charge of the 8000 scries and he was always on the lookout for new talent. In 1923 Polk Brockman, a white man who was OKeh's wholesale distributor in Atlanta, persuaded Peer to bring his equipment to Atlanta to record Fiddlin' John Carson, a favourite hillbilly singer. The June 15th edition of the Atlanta Journal advertised Peer's visit, and by the time a makeshift recording laboratory was set up in an empty loft on Nassau Street quite a lot of local talent had assembled. The Chicago Defender gave news of the trip, saying that Peer had made a 'record by Lucille Bogan, a popular blues singer from dear old Birmingham, Alabama, and an original blues by Fannie Goosby, amongst others.' OKeh 8079 coupled Lucille Bogan's "Pawn Shop Blues" with "Grievous Blues" by Fannie Goosby, the first race record to have been recorded outside the main centres of New York and Chicago. Lucille Bogan was called to New York almost immediately to record four more titles, and Miss Goosby followed a month or two later. At the end of 1923, OKeh advertisements were able to boast not only that 'OKeh made the first 12-inch blues Race record' (by Eva Taylor, one side being "Gulf Coast Blues", a 'cover' of one of the tunes on Bessie Smith's first record) and that 'the first duet record by colored artists was on OKeh' but also that 'new OKeh Race Artists have been discovered by special recording expeditions into the South.'

fixbutte
28th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Lucile Bogan - The Pawn Shop Blues / Grievious Blues (1923)
On repeated listening I have to agree to what the seller on Popsike commented: Fannie Goosby surprisingly good. I prefer her side to the side of the much better known Lucille Bogan.

Against this comment (and Robert Dixon's and John Godrich's Recording The Blues) it seems that "The Pawn Shop Blues" was not the first recording by Lucille Bogan though. Matrix numbers suggest that her four New York sides (OKeh 8071 and 8074) were recorded before this one, in late May or early June 1923.

fixbutte
28th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Lucile Bogan - The Pawn Shop Blues / Grievious Blues (1923)
This record is something special because both sides are designated on the labels as "Recorded in Atlanta, Ga.", making them the first sides recorded by African American blues singers outside of New York or Chicago. Lucille Bogan had recorded four sides in OKeh's New York studios before though, probably in late May 1923.

Fannie Goosby's side is with "Cornet and Piano Accomp.", but only the pianist is named (Eddie Heywood Sr.), not the prominent cornet player. Against Wikipedia, Goosby obviously does not accompany herself on the piano, and the trumpet part is probably not played by Henry Mason who "played in the late 1920s around Atlanta as an accompanist to blues vocalist[s] Fannie Mae Goosby", see the actual source used by Wikipedia. Against several sources, "Grievous Blues" is as wrongly spelled here as on the re-recording on OKeh 8095.

Not listed in the Talking Machine World's September 15, 1923 list, the record was probably only released in Nov 1923, see there: "First advertised in the Chicago Defender on November 17, 1923."

fixbutte
22nd Oct 2021
78 RPM
Billie Holiday - Gloomy Sunday (The Famous Hungarian Suicide Song) / I'm In A Low Down Groove (1941)
"Gloomy Sunday" was quite a notorious song when Billie Holiday recorded it in August 1941, three months after "I'm In A Low Down Groove", see here. As expected it became a national hit in the USA, and it was presumably marketed as the top side from the beginning, so I have flipped sides accordingly (against the order of the matrix numbers).

fixbutte
5th Oct 2021
78 RPM
Jimmy Swan [R&B] - Laughing, Laughing Blues / Hey Now Baby, Hey (1953)
Thanks, Mike Gann. Moved to newly created artist "Jimmy Swan [R&B]". As said there:

Rhythm & blues singer, who recorded for Peacock in Houston, Texas, in 1953, and for Checker in Chicago, Illinois, in 1959.

"No connection with Jimmy Swan on Trumpet and Dot." (Leslie Fancourt's postwar blues discography)


Strangely, Jimmy Swan the country singer recorded a very similarly titled "Hey, Baby, Baby" in 1955 (MGM 12226).

fixbutte
14th Sep 2021
78 RPM
Johnny Moore's Three Blazers - Make Believe Land / Nursery Rhyme Boogie (1947)
I guess you are not right with 1948 for the change from Modern Music to Modern (Hollywood). This record here was announced as just Modern 152 in the Billboard, and there are several other Modern records on the database entered as released from mid-1947 on that have exclusively Modern labels and no Modern Music labels.

fixbutte
11th Sep 2021
78 RPM
Woody Herman - Blues On Parade: The Band That Plays The Blues (1940)
Hello LaurenceD, yes please. I got my images from the web and cannot provide more :-)

fixbutte
9th Sep 2021
78 RPM
Harry Spencer - The Arkansaw Traveller (1911)
To be linked with Columbia 21 (where you can find the same Brooks/Rust quote in my comment from April 2016).

fixbutte
28th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Memphis Slim - Got To Find My Baby / Blue And Lonesome (1956)
Images added and sides flipped (against order of matrix numbers) according to Billboard review and first of two Cash Board reviews, see updated notes.

fixbutte
27th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Memphis Slim - Got To Find My Baby / Blue And Lonesome (1956)
Definitely recorded in 1954, see http://campber.people.clemson.edu/unitedstates2.html:

1481-1 | Memphis Slim and his House Rockers | Blue and Lonesome | United 201, Pearl PL-10, P-Vine Special [J] PJ-108, P-Vine Special [J] PLP-372, Delmark DE-710 [CD] | September 29, 1954 | June 1956
1485-1 | Memphis Slim and his House Rockers | Got to Find My Baby | United 201, Pearl PL-10, P-Vine Special [J] PJ-108, P-Vine Special [J] PLP-372, Delmark DE-710 [CD] | September 29, 1954 | June 1956

fixbutte
26th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Ernest Tubb - Our Baby's Book / You May Have Your Picture (1942)
What a hard fate, but it is perfectly designated for becoming a country song. Apparently it had an effect on some other people's lives, as someone on YouTube comments:
I was one of those babies named for little Rodger Dale. My Mother heard it on the radio and was touched by the line "After seven short weeks, our Master did speak, and now Rodger Dale has gone." According to Ronnie Pugh's extensive biography of The Texas Troubador, Tubb said at least 300 women told him they had done likewise. Rest in peace, you beautiful blue-eyed boy.

fixbutte
26th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Red Perkins - One Has My Name (The Other Has My Heart) / I Live The Life I Love (1948)
@Ron Reagan1
You're right about the release date inaccuracy. I don't know why the 1951 date was entered here although sources and logics indicate that this record was released in 1948. Praguefrank gives a Nov. 1948 date referring to a Dec. 18, 1948 ad in Billboard, but earlier mentions in Billboard suggest a release already in October 1948, see updated notes here.

fixbutte
5th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Jay McShann - Soft Winds / Someone To Watch Over Me (1949)
Label images eventually uploaded, confirming the dubious Down Beat release. Thanks, han enderman, for leading me to the source for the actual record and for your informative comment about the erratic Down Beat / Swing Beat / Swing Time numbering that I have noticed only now.

fixbutte
5th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Memphis Jug Band - I Can't Stand It / What's The Matter? (1929)
Moved the moderator note (plus the recording date) to the the record notes here because it is of general interest. I have also added December as (presumable) release month for this record.

Although John Bolig doesn't list the date (apparently because the info from Victor's "blue history card" for this record is missing), it was most probably released on December 6, 1929 like the following number V-38552:
- It was not released before October 1929 because of its recording in mid-September 1929.
- It was listed as already issued in Victor's April 1930 Blues and Hot Dance Tunes catalog where V-38578 was featured as the new record of the Memphis Jug Band.
- Numerically it was to be released between V-38537 (rel. October 4, 1929) and V-38558 (rel. January 3, 1930) by the Memphis Jug Band.

So we have a stronger basis for a release date estimation here than for many records with no official record company information.

fixbutte
4th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Memphis Jug Band - I Can't Stand It / What's The Matter? (1929)
If you mean this, V-38552 by Fats Waller was released on December 6, 1929. V-38558 by Memphis Jug Band was released on January 3, 1930. The Bolig Discography does not have full release dates for any records between those catalog nos., it doesn't help.

V-38551 is not between V-38552 and V-38558.

fixbutte
4th Aug 2021
78 RPM
Memphis Jug Band - I Can't Stand It / What's The Matter? (1929)
As you haven't added an accurate release date, Mike Gann, I guess it is missing from John Bolig's Victor Black Label Discography: 22000, 23000, 24000, V-38000, V-38500 and V-40000 Series book. Anyway, as you commented on Victor V-38553, the following number (V-38552 by Fats Waller) was released on December 6, 1929, so the same date seems likely here too.

fixbutte
29th Jul 2021
78 RPM
Delmore Brothers - Home On The River / There's A Lonesome Road (1939)
Some discrepancy on the release date here in Bolig's Bluebird Label Discography. Whereas he says "22-Feb-39" for the A-side, he gives "22-Mar-39" for the B-side. As" Home On The River" was only recorded on 5 February 1939 and the Delmores' previous record B-8031 was definitely released on 15 February 1939, I go for the March release date here (and have corrected it like that).

fixbutte
19th Jul 2021
78 RPM
Taskiana Four - Brightly Beams / Hide You In The Blood (1929)
@MikeGann:
Thanks for adding an accurate date here. December 12, 1928, however, was the recording date (for both sides, see DAHR), not the release date. Considering the neighboring numbers, this one was rather released on December 6, 1929 or January 3, 1930. John Bolig's Victor Black Label Discography: 22000, 23000, 24000, V-38000, V-38500 and V-40000 Series should state the correct date.

fixbutte
15th Jul 2021
78 RPM
Harry James - It's Been A Long, Long Time / Autumn Serenade (1945)
Now I understand why this record has been occupying the "78 RPM - Top 50 Viewed" for weeks (and why it is even #1 on US "Columbia - Sorted by Views All Time" here).

fixbutte
13th Jul 2021
78 RPM
Cantor Josef Rosenblatt - Hinini Heoni Mimaas (I Came Before Thee) / Yaale (Supplication) (1938)
Conclusion: I've corrected the release date to Sep 2, 1938 as suggested by DAHR. Although the most popular V-38000 Race Series and V-40000 Hillbilly Series were phased out by the end of 1930, several Ethnic "V-" series were apparently lasting much longer, including the Jewish series (V-59000: at least until 1939, V-9000: up to June 1942). Notes have been amended accordingly.

fixbutte
12th Jul 2021
78 RPM
Cantor Josef Rosenblatt - Hinini Heoni Mimaas (I Came Before Thee) / Yaale (Supplication) (1938)
Both sides were actually first released on Victor (or Victrola) 9108 (12-in. double-faced Red Seal), see DAHR and https://rsa.fau.edu/album/1188 (with A-side label). As that one was presumably released in 1927 or 1928, this one here may have been issued first with the Golden Voices Of Israel album in September 1938, as suggested before.

See also there with the RCA Victor 38-1005 reissue and the note:
"Coupling first released as Victor Red Seal 9108 circa 1927.
This reissue label was in production from January 1946 to 1947. Furthermore, the 38- international series was not introduced until circa 1947."

It also confirms that dubs of both sides were created on 2 August 1938 (i.e. just before the Golden Voices Of Israel album was issued).

fixbutte
12th Jul 2021
78 RPM
Cantor Josef Rosenblatt - Hinini Heoni Mimaas (I Came Before Thee) / Yaale (Supplication) (1938)
As already commented on the label images, they belong to a 1940s repress, so the V-59018 cat# was still used then. In addition, the later 38-1005 cat# still appears after the RCA Victor label change, see https://rsa.fau.edu/album/477, so it was probably only introduced in the context of Victor's new numbering system of 1942.

Thus I cannot rule out that this record was first issued in 1938. Still it is very unlikely considering the recording date.

fixbutte
12th Jul 2021
78 RPM
Cantor Josef Rosenblatt - Hinini Heoni Mimaas (I Came Before Thee) / Yaale (Supplication) (1938)
Corrected this record from 1927 to 1929, as proposed before. I did not correct it to Sep 2, 1938 as suggested by DAHR that has this date for the neighboring Victor V-59017 and V-59020. Apparently these three records, together with Victor V-59015, V-59016 and V-59019, were all issued in the album set Golden Voices Of Israel (Victor S-100) in 1938, but with altered numbers for the six records (38-1002 to 38-1007, see there).


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