78 RPM - Ethel Waters - Shake That Thing / No Man's Mamma - Columbia - USA

78 RPM Record

Artist:	Ethel Waters
Label:	Columbia
Country:	USA
Catalogue:	14116-D
Date:	20 Jan 1926
Format:	10"
Genre:	Blues
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	8 Own, 1 Wants
Price Guide:	$40
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PRICE GUIDE

$40

Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Ethel Waters	Shake That Thing		Rate
B	Ethel Waters And Her Ebony Four	No Man's Mamma	Pollack, Yellen	Rate

Notes

A: Piano accomp. by Pearl Wright.
B: Uncredited personnel: Joe Smith (cornet), Coleman Hawkins (bass saxophone), Pearl Wright (piano).

A - Composer: Charlie Jackson.
B - Composers: Jack Yellen, Lew Pollack.

A side (mx. 141429, take 1) recorded New York, NY, December 23, 1925.
B side (mx. 141207, take 1 or 2) recorded New York, NY, October 28, 1925.
(DAHR)

Images

Number: 3332490 THUMBNAIL Uploaded By: fixbutte Description: A Side Label (first pressing)	Number: 3332491 Uploaded By: fixbutte Description: B Side Label (first pressing)	Number: 3328868 Uploaded By: fixbutte Description: Columbia 14116-D A side label (early 1926 repress)	Number: 3328869 Uploaded By: fixbutte Description: Columbia 14116-D B side label (early 1926 repress)
Number: 1467209 Uploaded By: j.monk Description: Columbia 14116-D A side label (Feb.1927-1928 repress)	Number: 1467208 Uploaded By: j.monk Description: Columbia 14116-D B side label (Feb.1927-1928 repress)	Number: 3328920 Uploaded By: fixbutte Description: Columbia ad, The Afro-American (Baltimore, MD), April 10, 1926, page 4	Number: 3332819 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D A #2a
Number: 3332820 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D B #2a	Number: 3332822 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D A #3	Number: 3332823 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D B #3	Number: 3332824 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D A #4
Number: 3332825 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D A #5b	Number: 3332826 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D B #5a	Number: 3332827 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D A #W1	Number: 3332829 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D B #W1
Number: 3332830 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D A #W2	Number: 3332832 Uploaded By: han enderman Description: Co 14116-D A #W3	Number: 1027153 HIDDEN Uploaded By: GumboStu Edited By: scrough Description: A side label	Number: 1027156 HIDDEN Uploaded By: GumboStu Edited By: GumboStu Description: B Side Label

Comments and Reviews


han enderman 20th Jul 2023		Co 14116-D - label variants added. The incredible popularity of the record is indicated by the high stamper numbers. A65, E71 & F68 are used for label type #2 pressings, and D51 already for #1. B94 was used with #3 labels. Stamper 90 is used for #4 (mother not clear, but could be H). A G60 stamper for #2a is very unusual (visible on the B #2a image), as a little later the G is used for West Coast pressings only (type #W of this Ethel Waters record). Note that the common large West Coast G is a different font. I do not know when the Columbia West Coast pressings started.



han enderman 19th Jul 2023		Co 14116-D - I will describe here the label variants known to me, and then upload available examples: #1 - Aug 08 patent date present; copyright symbol © on upper line of bottom legend. - Images just uploaded by fixbutte, from a normal pressing. When the next label type (#2a) was introduced, remaining copies of type #1 were coupled with the first printing of #2a. Actually the hidden labels of GumboStu show side B #1 b/w A #2a. #2 - Aug 08 date absent; only Jan 13 & May 23 patent dates; © on bottom line.There are 2 variants, with different layout of the credit: #2a - Credit as on #1; indeed with an odd first line on both sides: A - Ethel Waters - Piano Accomp. / B - Ethel Waters and Her. #2b - Upper line of credit: A - Ethel Waters / B - Ethel Waters and. - The repressing uploaded by fixbutte is thus a normal #2b. #3 - Vivatonal / Electrical Process on label; 2-line legend below logo; same patent dates. Layout as #2b. - (A bad copy of B #3 uploaded by j.monk is present.) #4 - 3-line legend below logo; one patent date (Jan 13) followed by 2 'RE' numbers, resulting in a bottom legend with the upper line longer than the bottom line. #5 - 1-line registration legend below logo: REG. U.S. Pat. OFFICE (as in #1, but larger, elongated font); Jan 13 date removed, so only the two 'RE' numbers remain. #5a - Normal credit layout, as on #2b - #4. Confirmed for black and blue shellac pressings of side B. #5b - Aberrant credit layout, as on #1 - #2a. Used on the blue shellac pressing of side A. (Possibly, when printing new labels for type #5, Columbia copied an early label of A, and thus all copies of #5 have A #5b b/w B #5a.) #W - West Coast labels, with titles in large round font. Vivatonal / Electrical Process, with 3-line legend below logo. Credit layout as #3. G stampers. The following types fit beween types #3 and #4 above.On the West Coast, the earlier labels were still used when they had been replaced in the east. #W1 - Jan 13 & May 23 patent dates. - A #W1 was uploaded by j.monk. #W2 - As #W1, but credit more compact. #W3 - Copyright symbol © absent; patent date Jan 13 followed by one 'RE' number. Credit as on #W2. - The absence of © occurs only on West Coast labels.



fixbutte 19th Jul 2023		A pair of original labels with three patent dates (Aug. 11, ’08, Jan. 21, '13 and May 22, '23) in the manufacturer credit on bottom line next to border uploaded and moved up. Dan Mahony has the additional information that the 1908 patent had expired in 1925, so it had to be removed in early 1926..



xiphophilos 18th Jul 2023		Thanks for sharing this interesting info from the Mahony book!



fixbutte 17th Jul 2023		Thanks, xiphophilos, for the label design info and the additions to the record notes. The record was definitely a sales hit, still advertised three months after its release and apparently repressed in 1927 and later, and according to Dan Mahony's handbook The Columbia 13/14000-D Series: A Numerical Listing it already had a decent Initial Manufacturing Order (interpreted as being the quantity of records ordered on the initial pressing) of 16,550, one of highest of the series by then, plus Additional Supplies (additional labels to be printed in anticipation of possible large sales volume) of 7,000. I should have listened to it though before I made my last comment about "Shake That Thing" having been a dance hit in Georgia. "Down in Georgia, there's a dance that's new" is actually just a quote of the first line of the song, not a statement about its success in that state.



xiphophilos 14th Jul 2023		Since this record came out in January 1926, all the images uploaded so far show represses. An original label can be seen on the "Shake That Thing" Youtube video: first Viva-tonal-style label with one line of registration text and three patent dates (Aug. 11, ’08, Jan. 21, '13 and May 22, '23) (used June 1925- very early 1926). Images 3328868 and 3328869 represent an early repress on an early 1926 Viva-tonal style without the words "Viva-tonal Recording", with one line of registration text under the logo on top and two patent dates (Jan. 21, '13 and May 22, '23). Images 1467209 (the A side) of the repress shows a Feb. 1927-1928 Viva-tonal style label marked as "Viva-tonal Recording" with three lines of registration text in English and Spanish under the Columbia logo and with two patent dates (Jan. 21, '13 and May 22, '23). Images 1467208 (the B side) is a slightly earlier label that was still being used up in February 1927 when this repress was produced, an Oct. 1926-Jan. 1927 Viva-tonal style label marked as "Viva-tonal Recording" with two lines of registration text in English and Spanish under the Columbia logo and with two patent dates (Jan. 21, '13 and May 22, '23). Source: M. Sherman & K. Nauck, "Note the Notes," pages 31-32. By looking at when these label designs first appear in our database, I've been able to narrow down the dates a bit more.



fixbutte 14th Jul 2023		Better pair of labels uploaded in order to replace GumboStu's original images which have been hidden. j.monk's inferior brownish labels, however, have to stay because they belong to a later pressing, advertising the "Viva-Tonal" recording process. These labels were introduced only in September 1926 although Western Electric's process had been used by Columbia since mid-1925 at least. According to the uploaded Columbia ad in The Afro-American (Baltimore, MD) on April 10, 1926, "Shake That Thing" was the top side (and a Georgia dance hit), so I have also flipped sides.



j.monk 6th Oct 2017



j.monk 6th Oct 2017



GumboStu 10th Apr 2016		Added label pics



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