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| 28th Jun 2015, 11:57 PM | #21 REPORT | |
 | Break-In Master Member since Dec 2013 251 Points |
dezwarteschijf wrote:
Break-In Master wrote:
How about if you get another sheet of glass the same size as the one on the scanner, lay the record on that and then put the lid down.
I don't think that would work, the light scanners are using would have go to two layers of glass before reaching the label .. no scanner beam is strong enough though to scan it without getting out of focus. Other problem is that 78's are thicker than vinyl and scanners only like object close to the glass plate. I'll stick to my bottles  |
| 28th Aug 2015, 3:20 AM | #22 REPORT | |
 | W.B.lbl The Collector's Collector Member since Feb 2012 3786 Points Moderator | The scanner I have scans 78's as clear as a bell, but its X (horizontal) length is a bit less than Y (vertical) length, so I usually scan them at 600 dpi, then expand the horizontal to match the vertical and do my thing before resizing them to 300 dpi. And that's before cropping the area outside the label and re-resizing it to 600x600px for submitting such images to 78 RPM World. Of course, I take good care of the 78's to ensure they don't break while they're being scanned . . .   |
| 27th Jan 2016, 1:18 PM | #23 REPORT | |
 | mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points | I've had this problem too as evidenced by some of my uploaded images. I might try the water bottles thing, although that of course means I'd need to have two small bottles of water in the house... it is a pain scanning 78s on the average A4 household scanner. |
| 24th Feb 2016, 2:54 AM | #24 REPORT | |
 | fantasista Member since Feb 2015 435 Points | My scanner has a good half-centimetre clearance between the glass and the raised edges or whatever, so I'm a little reluctant to try pushing on any of my 78s.  The one image I've scanned so far is legible but still blurry: Who's had success taking photos of labels, and how do you do it? |
| 25th Feb 2016, 7:26 AM | #25 REPORT | |
 | The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS My body is on the diminishing streak. Member since Dec 2011 8082 Points Moderator | I have an Epson A4 scanner and scanned this label with the record sitting on the raised sides with the gap between the glass and the record, no bottles of water and no foot. See here for the result. Edited by The_Vinyl_Junkie on 25th Feb 2016, 7:39 AM |
| 28th Feb 2016, 12:07 AM | #26 REPORT | |
 | LaurenceD SUBS Member since Aug 2011 7708 Points Moderator | In case anyone's interested, I had to replace my old scanner, so I bought a Canon LiDE 220 which is a decent and inexpensive general-purpose scanner. However it does have a plastic raised edge surrounding the glass surface, which is a problem for 78s. The edge is mainly there for lining up one's 8 1/2 x 11 document, so I took a Swiss army knife and chopped off one of the long edges. Now I can lay my 10" discs flat and it works great. The warranty is voided, but that's ok. Only caveat is that by removing that plastic strip, I exposed a 1/8" opening where dust can get in, so I need to plug up that opening with something. |
| 7th Jan 2017, 1:52 AM | #27 REPORT | |
| mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points |
The_Vinyl_Junkie wrote:
I have an Epson A4 scanner and scanned this label with the record sitting on the raised sides with the gap between the glass and the record, no bottles of water and no foot.
See here for the result. How? I also have an Epson A4 scanner and did the same. The label is still a bit blurry though. |
| 8th Jan 2017, 11:52 PM | #28 REPORT | |
| The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS My body is on the diminishing streak. Member since Dec 2011 8082 Points Moderator |
mister_tmg wrote:
The_Vinyl_Junkie wrote:
I have an Epson A4 scanner and scanned this label with the record sitting on the raised sides with the gap between the glass and the record, no bottles of water and no foot.
See here for the result. How? I also have an Epson A4 scanner and did the same. The label is still a bit blurry though. My Epson model is a V37 and one thing I have discovered with it is the space between the glass and the reader is not accurate and creates the label image to be marginally oval shaped rather than round. By lifting the record a small amount above the glass I get round images and when I lift slightly higher again they become oval again in the opposite direction. Regardless of all that I have not had a blurry image. The settings I use are: Mode: Professional Mode Document Type: Reflective Document Source: Document Table Auto Exposure Type: Document Image Type: 48-bit Color Resolution: 400 dpi Documint Size: A4 (default) Trimming: On Unsharp Mask Level: Medium (Box not ticked) Descreening Screen Ruling: Magazine (133 lpi). (Box not ticked) Hope this helps. Edited by The_Vinyl_Junkie on 9th Jan 2017, 12:55 AM |
| 9th Jan 2017, 10:29 AM | #29 REPORT | |
| vocalion red Member since Apr 2016 327 Points | I just use a Kodak camera, (pixpro FZ41), with the flash turned off and with macro turned on, for close work on labels. I never tried using a scanner because of the hard surfaces. I have had 78's break on me just by putting them down on a table ! I place the disc on a piece of foam rubber on a table, or even a bed, and take the shot. Yes, a lot of times I have a problem with window glare, but I'd rather have a photo with a little glare than a broken disc. |
| 9th Jan 2017, 7:23 PM | #30 REPORT | |
| mojofilter Member since Jul 2012 1434 Points | I've taken all the scans of my 78s with a Canon LiDE 700F, which is several years old now. It has no raised edge along the side on which the lid opens, so you can lay a 78 RPM record flat on its glass surface. Any scanner with this feature will eliminate out-of-focus problems. |
| 10th Jan 2017, 8:38 AM | #31 REPORT | |
| Bob1951 Member since Oct 2016 2678 Points | I use a dino-lite. There is a skill needed however to adjust the settings just so, to get some of the colors right like the red labels, like 40-50's columbia's red labels, victrola's etc. Much faster then a scanner. Bob |
| 10th Jan 2017, 4:32 PM | #32 REPORT | |
| scrough No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3428 Points Moderator | Quite frankly, slightly blurred images are no problem, as we mods can usually read them when we come to approving your submissions. A much bigger problem is images either not cropped to a circle on a white background (for labels) or photos of LP/CD covers with perspective distortion and/or not cropped to remove any background, which get sent by all us mods to the 'images for editing' queue faster than sh1t off a shovel |
| 10th Jan 2017, 4:55 PM | #33 REPORT | |
 | Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25322 Points Moderator | I normally wield the shovel. |
| 10th Jan 2017, 6:06 PM | #34 REPORT | |
 | Jock_Girl ● A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | I use the scanner on my Canon MX340 multifunction unit and have had no real issues. I can scan a 78 and have it cropped to a circle with a few minutes. Works like a charm. Pretty simple stuff. On the other hand ... having to save a bad image, load it, crop it and then replace it is tedious. In some cases where a bad image is edited, the act of removing the extraneous background renders a label image that is too small to be usable due to blur when it gets upsized (if needed) Amy |
| 11th Jan 2017, 12:35 AM | #35 REPORT | |
| Bob1951 Member since Oct 2016 2678 Points | Sorry I have not yet figured out how to circle crop. Ok I got it now. It takes me a while. I am a slow learner, but when I learn something it sticks. Edited by Bob1951 on 29th May 2017, 7:35 AM |
| 11th Jan 2017, 10:17 AM | #36 REPORT | |
 | zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points |
Bob1951 wrote:
Sorry I have not yet figured out how to circle crop.
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| 23rd Jan 2017, 8:21 AM | #37 REPORT | |
| keebrev Member since Aug 2016 464 Points | I use a small modern digital camera , so the size of the record (shellack or vinyl) is irrelevant.The record lays on a side-table in front of a window to get light without a shadow over the record. It works quite well, if I may say so. For cropping the label I work with ms digital image editor, cutting out the label with the "edge finder" tool, ctrl+5. Only black glimmering and scratching edge labels give problems on black records. But it can be solved by using a black circle mask over the label and then cutting it out. Before uploading the image it's resized to a height of 800 pixels. Only 7" vinyls and CD's are scanned at high resolution, Edited by moderator on 27th Jan 2017, 4:01 AM |
| 23rd Jan 2017, 10:53 AM | #38 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | I am fortunate to have a scanner which will scan 78s well. The issues with using a camera for record images are lighting and perspective. I often use a camera on a copy stand for LP sleeves, and I posted some advice: http://www.rosestone.me.uk/Image_Editing/#PHOTOS |
| 23rd Jan 2017, 12:17 PM | #39 REPORT | |
| keebrev Member since Aug 2016 464 Points | Thanks for the link JJ. I'll surely work with it to see the benefits of it. Edited by moderator on 27th Jan 2017, 4:02 AM |
| 24th Jan 2017, 5:24 AM | #40 REPORT | |
 | leonard BLANK Member since Jun 2011 45547 Points Moderator | JJ, can you remove the part about resizing as it's no longer appropriate? I scan at 300 dpi and don't resize at all. Uploading such big files is a bit slower, but worth the wait. Every now and then, if I get an error message, I have to resize the file for an album cover to 3000x3000. The results are readable back sleeves which you can enlarge quite a bit on your tablet/computer. See my submitted scans. Edited by moderator on 27th Jan 2017, 4:03 AM |
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