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24th Sep 2017, 11:14 PM		#1 REPORT
	JohnBuckWLD I'm not the hero I could be, but not the dog I was Member since Oct 2014 19 Points	Assumptions based issues about the Bihari brothers Modern imprint(s) : 1) Based on the fact that releases with a Modern label can be seen near the top of the Modern Music page, those from 1946 and early 1947 (at a minimum) are reissues with first issue release dates. Example Modern Music #123 vs. Modern #123 2) There are a lot of Modern's 78rpm releases with a 20- prefix in the 600 series. Some are likely reissues with the first issue's release dates affixed to them. Example: Modern #627: Without retail price or A/B designations vs. Modern #20-627 reissue with retail and A/B designations Let's say that there are other: A) Modern label reissues with the release date of the original and different catalog # than the original Modern Music release... B) Modern #20-6## releases are reissues, with a release date belonging to the original release (without the #20- prefix bolted on to the root cat #). If they are found, I assume they should be added. But what should be done with non-first press reissue releases like Modern #20-627 and Modern #123? Erase the release date? -or- Message a moderator and ask them to make the reissue a "variant" (with a different cat #) of the original first USA release? Edited by moderator on 25th Sep 2017, 3:04 AM

25th Sep 2017, 10:29 AM		#2 REPORT
	fixbutte Member since Jan 2013 1483 Points Moderator	Interesting contribution. I'm highly interested in the Modern label and have assembled a lot of its releases on RYM, obviously not complete although several numbers don't seem to have been assigned at all, see the big holes on Modern Records, 500 series and 100 series. What I can say is: - Your first assumption is correct, i.e. several records originally released on Modern Music were reissued on Modern with the same cat#. - Your second assumption is not correct. For unknown reasons, Modern (Music) 500 series, in contrast to its 100/200 series, had a 20- prefix from the beginning, continued in the 600/700/800 series until #20-823 but strangely intermitted for numbers 807 to 813 (without prefix). As the prefix was completely abandoned in mid-1951 from #826 (824?) on, I'm sure that Modern #627 is a later variant of Modern #20-627. As a result I propose that the later releases should be treated as variants of the original issues in both cases. Edited by fixbutte on 25th Sep 2017, 10:48 AM