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| 23rd Jan 2013, 4:48 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | I am wondering if there is any way a list can be created to specifically document the last regular issue/ non-speciality market 78 for any given label/ country combo? It would have to be that as a new release is discovered that is later than one in the list it could be added as a replacement. Excluded would be the Rhino re-issues, Record Store Day stuff, kiddie records, and stuff like Buena on Stiff, etc that were one off specialty items Maybe this is even better as a forum topic than a list My nominees are: Last 78 in USA and for Fire records Fire 1022 - Bobby Marchan - There's Something On Your Mind Part 2 - June 1960 http://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/1022&rc=1300#1300 Last 78 in USA for Columbia records Columbia 41193 - Johnny Mathis - A Certain Smile- June 1958 no image Would love to know the end of the line for Decca, Capitol, RCA, and Dot Edited by moderator on 7th Aug 2015, 8:26 AM |
| 23rd Jan 2013, 10:08 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points | Could be interesting for countries like India, the Philippines etc...  |
| 23rd Jan 2013, 11:35 PM | #3 REPORT | |
 | Scratchy45 In Revived 45s, disinterred 33&1/3s, saved 78s Member since Jul 2011 782 Points | Similarly for the CCCP - I saw a forum post elsewhere suggesting that 78s had to be produced there for 10 years after the last date of manufacture of equipment to play them. Can anyone confirm this? |
| 24th Jan 2013, 7:02 AM | #4 REPORT | |
 | KeithS SUBS Member since Dec 2009 12492 Points Moderator | I have a low res picture of what was supposed to be the last 78 in the US. Sue 800 Bobbi Bolden "Chie-O-La Man/Need Me Tonight " from 1963 It was recognised that certain customers would not take kindly to the demise of the 78...Hillbillys in shacks up in the mountain with no electricity and the poorer of the Black Community with the same electricity problem so I would guess that music specially in those categories must have been produced right up to the end on 78's in limited quantities Edited by moderator on 24th Jan 2013, 7:05 AM |
| 24th Jan 2013, 1:05 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator |
privatecitizen wrote:
I have a low res picture of what was supposed to be the last 78 in the US. Sue 800 Bobbi Bolden "Chie-O-La Man/Need Me Tonight " from 1963
I have seen that record also, but according to Jerry Osborne it ain't so. Seems that it is actually from 1957 -- an out of sequence number. See this webpage. Bobbi Bolden - Sue 800 Edited by Jock_Girl on 24th Jan 2013, 1:06 PM |
| 24th Jan 2013, 1:31 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| KeithS SUBS Member since Dec 2009 12492 Points Moderator | Fooled again!!! A did some work years ago on US Decca and the latest 78 I saw was 30681 from 58 Edited by privatecitizen on 24th Jan 2013, 1:46 PM |
| 24th Jan 2013, 3:33 PM | #7 REPORT | |
 | W.B.lbl The Collector's Collector Member since Feb 2012 3786 Points Moderator |
Jock_Girl wrote:
Last 78 in USA for Columbia records
Columbia 41193 - Johnny Mathis - A Certain Smile- June 1958 no image |
| 24th Jan 2013, 3:43 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator |
privatecitizen wrote:
Fooled again!!!
A did some work years ago on US Decca and the latest 78 I saw was 30681 from 58 So it looks like my hunt for a 78 of Bring My Cadillac Back by Baker Knight and the Knightmares on Decca 30135 from 1956 is not without hope |
| 1st Mar 2013, 2:42 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| KeithS SUBS Member since Dec 2009 12492 Points Moderator | Tony I see your last Capitol is 15095. Pelletiers book shows 45/78 issues slowing down around 14854 and after this ony few selected releases come out on 78's and the last one he has listed is 15101 Fred Waring in 1959 Edited by privatecitizen on 1st Mar 2013, 2:43 PM |
| 1st Mar 2013, 2:47 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| KeithS SUBS Member since Dec 2009 12492 Points Moderator | Re Coral...seems 72392, 72395,72404 were the last 78's |
| 1st Mar 2013, 2:58 PM | #12 REPORT | |
| Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | Re Warner Bros. WB.1 was not the last, although it was the first  WB.19 (Lucille/ So Sad) was possibly the last. http://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/wb19 Image nicked from Record Collector mag  |
| 1st Mar 2013, 2:58 PM | #13 REPORT | |
 | Tony P Member since Feb 2011 1498 Points | The New Records don't list 15101 as a 78. I'll look later in the Gramophone Catalogue. http://i.imgur.com/lbpNX.jpg Edited by tony p on 1st Mar 2013, 2:59 PM |
| 1st Mar 2013, 3:00 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| KeithS SUBS Member since Dec 2009 12492 Points Moderator | Decca F11245,11254,11255,11256 seem to be the last batch |
| 1st Mar 2013, 3:12 PM | #15 REPORT | |
| KeithS SUBS Member since Dec 2009 12492 Points Moderator | I wonder what logic was involved when Record companies still decided to release a odd 78 version now and then when the new 45 was already the popular medium. Transport costs and breakages were much less so goobye and good riddance- yet they still were forced to release the odd couple here and there. Was it for their Juke-box customers who still had 78 machines??? |
| 1st Mar 2013, 3:38 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator |
privatecitizen wrote:
I wonder what logic was involved when Record companies still decided to release a odd 78 version now and then when the new 45 was already the popular medium.
I'd think it was to maximise profit. After having sold a record to the 1 jillion record buyers who can play 45s, they wanted to get product into the hands of those who couldn't play 45 and couldn't afford to replace their equipment. This would only be done for a proven seller or artist. |
| 2nd Mar 2013, 10:21 AM | #17 REPORT | |
| Tony P Member since Feb 2011 1498 Points | The New Records does not list these Decca, Coral, Warner Bros or Capitol records as 78's. I have found the Capitol record CL15101 listed as a 78 in the Gramophone Title index but not in the artist index. To me it appears that if Decca Group found a 45 version of a record was selling well in some cases they would issue a 78 version. |
| 4th Mar 2013, 4:51 PM | #18 REPORT | |
 | Whyperion SUBS Too Many Records , Too Little Time Member since Jan 2013 306 Points | Maybe a question would be when would New Records stop listing 78s , if record co's were issuing retailer sheets or making it known 78s were to order , New Records would not bother noting this as the 45 was the main seller. |
| 6th Aug 2015, 9:19 PM | #19 REPORT | |
| Shellac Member since Sep 2014 3 Points | Hi guy's without being able to see (or enlarge) the tiny print, can anyone actually POST the LAST known regular UK 78 issues? I believe I have two: Russ Conway: Royal Event (Columbia) 1960 Adam Faith: Poor Me (Parlophone) 1960 This webpage has: Steve Stannard on Embassy: Pepe (1961) Could anyone expand please? |
| 7th Aug 2015, 2:25 PM | #20 REPORT | |
| Neil Forbes Rock, Country or R. & B. - Classic Hits for me! Member since Dec 2014 252 Points |
zabadak wrote:
Could be interesting for countries like India, the Philippines etc...
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