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Member	Item		Review/Comment
Lee Wrecker 25th Jun 2017		CD Album Roxy Music - Siren (2000)	Hi Alenko, thanks for the insight in regard to the Virgin label in the USA. I'm with you on this one and consider that the label should be changed to Virgin. That will mean this series will then have be made international and combined with the EU releases of the same time.
Lee Wrecker 25th Jun 2017		CD Album The Bees - Free The Bees (2004)	Added Booklet scans to be shuffled into place. Correction sent. I thought this was trite, retro drivel when it came out but I'm listening to it now and it's pretty good. At least they're a proper band with a decent sound and that's a rare commodity these days. "Chicken Payback" is a solid gold hit in anyone's language.
Lee Wrecker 25th Jun 2017		CD Album Roxy Music - Roxy Music (1999)	Australian edition with different cat# to EU and USA releases but the CD is actually an import of the EU CD (bel biem logo and EU cat#) by the look of it. Identical CD different cat# on other packaging simultaneously the same and different. CDs really are a nightmare particularly with all the major mergers, sales, re-sales of catalogues and labels plus the problems caused by piecemeal lowest common denominator global production techniques.
Lee Wrecker 25th Jun 2017		CD Album Roxy Music - Siren (2000)	Virgin, Virgin America or Virgin Records America Inc.? Virgin Records America appears on the spine, Virgin America appears nowhere on the disc or packaging and the plain old garden variety Virgin moniker or listing is on the disc, inlay, booklet and CD. On that evidence I'd be tempted to list this as a Virgin release and that would also make it international. Or is the fact that Virgin Records America Inc. is on the spine enough to make that the label and that label is significantly different enough to the Virgin label to warrant a separate US release even though all the other details are the same. It's time to split some hairs on these as the entire Roxy Music catalogue was re-released this way. However, in Australia they dropped the numerical cat#s ie ROXYCD 5 and just with spaced versions of the barcode. Are they all the same? Are they all different? Are some the same and some not? My feeling is that the EU and USA editions are the same regardless of Virgin Records America Inc. being on the spine and both should be listed as Virgin releases. The Australian issues should be listed separately as they only use the secondary cat#s from the EU and USA CDs and don't have the ROXYCD 5 (or whatever #) as a cat# at all. Any ideas?
Lee Wrecker 20th Jun 2017		CD Album The Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk (2003)	Should this one be listed as a Special Edition then?
Lee Wrecker 20th Jun 2017		CD Album Chris Farlowe - Hungary For The Blues (2006)	Hey Magic, according to Wikipedia it is a recording of two live performances "One was on June 18, 2000 at the Gastroblues Festival Paks, in Hungary, and other was on October 8, 2004 at the Charlys Musikkneipe, in Oldenburg." Not sure how good it is though one review on Amazon goes like this "I don't like this group of songs and I gave the cd away to someone who wound up donating it to a second hand store." So you may see it on your travels soon. I listened to 4-5 snippets of songs online and while Farlowe was in good voice and the the band was alright it sounds more like a tour souvenir than a calling card like the Feelgood's "Stupidity", "Slade Alive" or any other really good live album. Should've perhaps made this comment a review of snippets and cut it up Burroughs/Bowie style.
Lee Wrecker 20th Jun 2017		CD Album Cliff Richard - The Hit List (1994)	I've had advice from MODS to list them both ways Jasper. The last official word by PM (about a year ago) to me from the MODS was to list everything Made In Australia as Australian. This of course is in direct contrast to the guidelines which would indicate CDs such as this to be listed as "International". It is far too confusing and yesterday I listed this CD as a European release when technically it is an "International" release due to the fact it was released in Australia. These cases are more difficult though as they are in fact the very same "identical" release (the EU release is the Australian release) and it is not a locally made version with the same details. So proving these were in fact released here is near impossible (without extensive research) and the fact that I have bought it here is often, in my experience, not a convincing enough argument. So I have given up on that approach altogether. Now, after entering close to 700 CDs my preferred method of entering them is the "what's on the tin method" and avoiding the international category wherever possible. I know a fair few other site users that have adopted the same method after grappling with the inconsistencies and intricacies of entering CDs. Apparently, according to some, a fix for these issues is in the pipeline so that would a good thing.
Lee Wrecker 20th Jun 2017		CD Album Cliff Richard - The Hit List (1994)	Looks like you're right Jasper but you'll have to send a correction for the listing to change to "International". I think some MODS prefer anything with the "Digital Audio Technologies Australia" logo to be listed as Australian regardless of any of the other matching data and others seem to think the matching data over-rides this. Really it's up to you Jasper and if you had listed it as an Australian release I don't think anyone would have noticed or bothered about it too much.
Lee Wrecker 19th Jun 2017		CD Album The Kinks - Lola Versus Powerman And The Moneygoround & Percy (2014)	Magic, are you sure? I thought something from "Percy" might be more appropriate. Given that he's such a .....
Lee Wrecker 18th Jun 2017		CD Album David Bowie - Outside / Heathen (2010)	Hi Phil, I put that in the contribution notes and so far nothing has changed. Discogs lists this one this way and I put the original labels in the notes because the information on the box packaging only says Sony Music. I was in two minds though. gregs78's the EU and Europe are two distinctly different entities last time I looked and if a CD states made in the EU it is referring to the economic construct and not the geographical construct. Russia, the Ukraine and sundry other countries are not in the EU and I don't think they should all be clubbed under the banner of the European Union or Europe when no CDs actually have Made In Europe on them. Well none I've seen anyway. I'm sure the MODS have grappled with this one but it is a confusing situation for those of us in other parts of the world.
Lee Wrecker 18th Jun 2017		CD Album David Bowie - Outside / Heathen (2010)	This was of course an Australian release as well an EU release but I've listed it as EU as that is what it says on the tin. Listing any other way is just far too confusing, involves hours of research to prove that this is the case and in the end no-one really cares except people that would like it to be listed as European anyway. Never mind Brexit will bring the same problem to the UK very soon. Won't any EU CD sold in Britain be international after Brexit? What's the story with EU CDs sold in Switzerland? Surely they are all international or are there different rules for that?
Lee Wrecker 18th Jun 2017		CD Album David Bowie - Heathen (2002)	I'll add a full set of uniform sized scans to this when I finish the box set. Done and correction sent.
Lee Wrecker 18th Jun 2017		CD Album David Bowie - 1. Outside (The Nathan Adler Diaries: A Hyper Cycle) (2004)	Just disowned this one as I was a bit lazy when entering it and it actually came in a 2CD box set which I will enter shortly. Oh, the other CD in the box was "Heathen" so all in all a nice box of later Bowie CDs.
Lee Wrecker 15th Jun 2017		CD Album Otis Redding - Otis Blue / Otis Redding Sings Soul (1991)	But are we the only two? I agree with your assessment particularly in regard to bonus tracks and alternate mixes or Stereo and Mono versions getting tacked on. Cheers again!
Lee Wrecker 15th Jun 2017		CD Album Otis Redding - Pain In My Heart (1991)	That's exactly why I listed this one this way and didn't change it gregs78s. Cheers!
Lee Wrecker 15th Jun 2017		CD Album Otis Redding - Otis Blue / Otis Redding Sings Soul (1991)	Magic and gregs78s this particular CD has a cat# 7567-80318-2 the issue on the 5 CD box set has a cat# 8122 79827 4 and has a different generic Rhino / Atco label. Even this Rhino produced Monkees 5 CD Box Set and this Box Set by Nina Simone on RCA / Legacy that I entered ages ago all have cat#s beginning with an 8. All of the 5 CD Box Sets have different cat#s to previous releases as far as I can see and come in cardboard sleeves and have some sort of generic label. This CD comes in jewel case and has an Atco label and is listed as such and no mention of Rhino appears on the packaging. So Magic this CD is not the same (identical) issue that comes in the box set but gregs78s is right to hyperlink them as they are the same album just different issues, on different labels with different cat#s. The same but different - link away my friends.
Lee Wrecker 15th Jun 2017		CD Album Otis Redding - Pain In My Heart (1991)	Hey, gregs78s this is my entry and it was on sale at regular, well slightly less, price but I listed it this way as this is my personal preference and of course I had no real proof at the time that it was the Australian release. Phil noted that it was also in fact an official Australian release as well over a year and a half ago but I haven't sent a correction because I'm not so fond of the idea, as you're probably aware, of CDs losing their identity in the international category. In my view it's the job of the MODS to sort these finer details out and keep the site consistent as the complexities of CD releases are way beyond the realm of a small-time collector like me. Well, perhaps not after all the grief, frustration and learning that went into entering my collection here. I only own about 800 CDs but at least half of them would be in the same category as this one with three options for the country of release. It can be quite a daunting prospect for the site user when the first question you face has three possible correct answers. I know, I know wait and see what happens...
Lee Wrecker 14th Jun 2017		CD Album Otis Redding - Pain In My Heart (1991)	Here's another one gregs78s that's in the same boat as "Otis Redding: The Dock Of The Bay: The Definitive Collection". Cat#s differ between this edition and the box set version and why are the box sets international and these individual CDs not? Phil has provided the Australian release date on this one (once again my actual copy). In regard to the magazines Mojo and Uncut they seem to have a barcode for the UK and a different barcode for the rest of the world. However, sometimes rest of the world copies have the same barcode as the UK editions. It's a very messy affair that defies logic or consistency but once again falls into some cracks in our system here. I, like you, are waiting on direction from the MODS on these issues and hope something a bit more workable is soon upon us.
Lee Wrecker 13th Jun 2017		CD Album Otis Redding - The Dock Of The Bay: The Definitive Collection (1987)	gregs78s, this is not my copy. My copy is the Australian, EU or international release linked below as the Europe edition which was bought in Australia through regular channels. See my comments on that copy and the the scans on that edition are all contributed by me. It was common practice for Warners to put swags of stuff out on the Australian market, see what sold well then cherry pick from those what to produce locally. The Sam and Dave CD from the same series went the same way and so did nearly everything on the Warner Archives imprint. There are gazillions of other examples and they will all shoot gaping holes in the way we go about things here on 45Worlds. When this kind of evidence is ignored because EU and USA based MODS just plainly refuse to accept it as a valid reason to change the country classification in favour of their belief that it is in fact a release from a particular region. Conversely, if it was a release from somewhere else in the world MODS are very quick to internationalise that release based on no evidence apparent on this site. Their may well be evidence on another site but that's not the point. Seems an EU or USA (shall we talk about the Canada problem or do that later) stays that way until evidence appears to the contrary on this site. EU or USA CDs being marketed and distributed in Australia for some reason is not good enough evidence as per my linked release below. Hmm... I might just track down the catalogues and start working through the tens of thousands of releases that fall in to this category. That will make nearly everything international and almost impossible to find on the database. That is my key concern really that the current system we use has the propensity to turn the database into a pile of unintelligible junk that is near impossible to use. This is why we see some MODS protecting the original market as the country of release regardless of information that indicates they are in fact international. By the way both Mojo and Uncut magazines are also international and both have a various times used the same barcode internationally or different barcodes. Convenient that there's no barcodes on the issues on our site (or very few) otherwise we'd have to reconfigure the whole lot. Check this one out.
Lee Wrecker 13th Jun 2017		CD Album Otis Redding - The Dock Of The Bay	This was officially released in Australia. The shots here are my Australian release which is the identical, well in fact is the EU release. To confuse things even further later the same year an Australian release (Made In Australia) also appeared with an abbreviated cat#. So is this international, Australian or an EU release? I've got my money on all three!
Lee Wrecker 4th Jun 2017		CD Album Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Baby 81 (2007)	Added cover sticker and booklet scans.
Lee Wrecker 4th Jun 2017		CD Album Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Beat The Devil's Tattoo (2010)	Added Booklet scans and some minor improvements.
Lee Wrecker 4th Jun 2017		CD Album Bob Seger - Early Seger Vol. 1 (2009)	Whatever the decision is Magic could we make sure this Cruel Sea CD gets the same treatment. I added that one ages ago and in my opinion at the time thought they were two versions of the same thing and therefore should all be on one entry. I could be wrong but it seems to make sense to me. Historically, there were probably a fair number of albums that had limited digipak versions as well as jewel cased versions issued on release so we should have a few precedents floating around to compare to other than my link above. I'm sure some people split the entries into two releases in similar cases but it's hard to know what's best sometimes.
Lee Wrecker 3rd Jun 2017		CD Album Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Howl (2005)	Added booklet and CD inlay scans. It should also be noted that this CD came in a cardboard slipcase and also without in a plain jewel case with a different cover shot. So technically this CD has two covers but is the same CD in every other regard. So the scan here of Booklet 1 is the cover shot of the jewel case version of the CD. Should we promote the Booklet 1 image to the main shot for the page?
Lee Wrecker 2nd Jun 2017		CD Album Bob Seger And The Silver Bullet Band - Like A Rock (1986)	Hi Magic, so it seems to have turned out to not be a stupid question at all and you even managed to hazard a guess of the correct answer. What a let down. You got my hopes up there for a moment and everything turned out to be simple and have a rational explanation. You need to work harder on your stupid questions this one was a fizzer. I'll be looking out for big improvements in this area Magic. Oh, by the way I'd like to congratulate you on your recent Modhood but more to the point your energy and zeal for the task at hand. Keep up the good work.
Lee Wrecker 2nd Jun 2017		CD Album Big Mama Thornton - The Original Hound Dog – From The Peacock Archives (1990)	Hi Phil, I would have bought this at the first available opportunity and had it in my collection before 1992 as it was with me when I moved house at around that time. In spite of the bronzing this one still plays fine and is as you'll know is a great CD. You're right about the disk scan being not quite right as in real life the disk is more of matt grey colour but here it seems to be a pinkish. I never knew about the replacement program but even if I did, like you, I think from our end of the planet it's all a bit too much effort. Thanks for the information on this CD, Phil.
Lee Wrecker 1st Jun 2017		CD Album Basement Jaxx - The Singles (2005)	Added CD Australian Issue, Booklet Info, Poster and Australian Inlay scans. We're not going to have a debate that XL is a UK independent label are we? How much nostalgic vinyl thinking can we take? Anyway Radiohead's International releases (including vinyl) on XL would put that theory to the test would it not?
Lee Wrecker 1st Jun 2017		CD Album Basement Jaxx - The Singles (2005)	This one is international and the cat# should be XLCD187 (see spine) with no space and not XLCD 187 as it is listed here. I'll upload the Australian Inlay manufactured and distributed by Shock records as proof because it has the same XL label, barcode and cat#. The CD is slightly different so I'll do a shot of that too and perhaps do the poster as well. Looks like Shock had the rights to the entire XL catalogue to me so they'll all eventually go to international as secondary distributors/manufacturers don't count or do they?
Lee Wrecker 1st Jun 2017		CD Album The Blasters - American Music (1997)	Added a complete set of booklet scans to be shuffled into place. Also added a new scan of the inlay with spines as on my initial entry I'd cropped them off. Please replace the cropped image with the new one with the spines included. Correction sent.
Lee Wrecker 1st Jun 2017		CD Album Big Mama Thornton - The Original Hound Dog – From The Peacock Archives (1990)	With respect to cussincarryinon02 I've added a clearer cover shot for moderation. In addition I've added a full set of booklet scans and a scan of my CD which I believe is a pressing variant (different colour and different inner ring info layout). I'm not sure if one is a first pressing and the other is a repress or if they just came out of different plants at the same time. Correction sent in regard to shuffling things about here.

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