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  25th Aug 2014, 1:48 PM#1  REPORT  
Deltics

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Get your bids in!

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/161395219608?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649


  25th Aug 2014, 1:59 PM#2  REPORT  
nboldock

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Blimey.

Deep pockets required!!


  25th Aug 2014, 2:43 PM#3  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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I must be really grouchy, but I have a big issue with records like this. $30,000? Huh?

Amy


  25th Aug 2014, 2:52 PM#4  REPORT  
fixbutte

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Actually it was not sold after 44 bids and last bid of US $30,100.
Ended: Aug 22, 2014 21:15:57 PDT: Reserve price not met

link in English



  25th Aug 2014, 3:19 PM#5  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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Of course I had to look on YouTube and there's no 78 shown there, but here's the track




  25th Aug 2014, 4:29 PM#6  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Have to say my cynical mind fancies it smells a rat when an item like that appears on the market in that condition.

Should be in Southeby's, not ebay.


  25th Aug 2014, 4:39 PM#7  REPORT  
fixbutte

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That's nothing against that one:

Action Comics #1 (June 1938) Superman's Debut, CGC 9.0 - Perfect White Pages

Ended:Aug 24, 2014 18:00:02 PDT
Winning bid: US $3,207,852.00 [ 48 bids ]




  25th Aug 2014, 9:44 PM#8  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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fixbutte wrote:
Actually it was not sold after 44 bids and last bid of US $30,100.
Ended: Aug 22, 2014 21:15:57 PDT: Reserve price not met

Two things here bother me --- one is the seller. He uses his website and catalogues to promote his mixture of political and religious ideology. A few years ago a friend of mine showed me his catalogue and I was appalled at the way this seller used it in that manner -- and I say that as a religious person and patriotic Canadian who loves her country. But I don't push either, or any other aspect of my personal stances, on you folks.

The other is that I've always had an issue with 'reserve' auctions. While I am not sure what he set as that price, if he intended to not sell until it hit that, then why not set the opening bid there. Its a bit sleazy to me -- almost like its done just to test the waters with no real intent to sell.

Of course don't tell others in the elite of the 78 rpm collecting community about these sort of issues unless you want to have a bucket of scorn tossed your way

Amy

Edited by Jock_Girl on 25th Aug 2014, 11:20 PM

  26th Aug 2014, 12:44 AM#9  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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If you could afford to pay that amount for an item like this.... rather than say, food, or the mortgage, then I'm fairly sure ebay is mot your first stop for such a thing; You get "your man" to do it for you surely!

Smacks of showing off I think.

Hadn't looked too closely at the seller Jock_girl, but I quite agree, but this is odd, considering the myth surrounding Robert Johnson... you'd think the seller and the sale are somewhat curious bedfellows... incongruous, you might say.

The other thing that made me suspicious is that there are a number of reissue box sets with replicas of the original discs for sale on ebay now, it's just been released i gather, in a limited run... And while I'd never suggest someone would simply hook out a replica reissue and try selling it as what would essentially be a spotless antique, it does make you wonder. :sideways:


  26th Aug 2014, 1:49 AM#10  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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Well the seller may be a bit of a prat, but he isn't the type to sell a reproduction as a the real deal. As far as records go, he is knowledgeable .. but a prat nonetheless. I wouldn't buy from him

Amy


  26th Aug 2014, 2:19 PM#11  REPORT  
zabadak

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It's my birthday in a coupla months, just sayin'... :thumbsup:

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  29th Aug 2014, 11:43 AM#12  REPORT  
thatsunday

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reading the words "investment portfolio" in context with a record makes me sick :angry:


  1st Sep 2014, 6:41 PM#13  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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Magic Marmalade wrote:
The other thing that made me suspicious is that there are a number of reissue box sets with replicas of the original discs for sale on ebay now

So there is, I never knew repro 78s were made:

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I can spot a 60s 7" repro a mile away, so I suppose a 78 collector could easily spot these as being repros too.



  2nd Sep 2014, 10:05 AM#14  REPORT  
nboldock

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Orbiting Cat wrote:
Magic Marmalade wrote:
The other thing that made me suspicious is that there are a number of reissue box sets with replicas of the original discs for sale on ebay now

So there is, I never knew repro 78s were made:

0w2VYqi.jpg

I can spot a 60s 7" repro a mile away, so I suppose a 78 collector could easily spot these as being repros too.

I didn't know these things existed either.

That looks amazing.


  2nd Sep 2014, 2:40 PM#15  REPORT  
fixbutte

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nboldock wrote:
Orbiting Cat wrote:
Magic Marmalade wrote:
The other thing that made me suspicious is that there are a number of reissue box sets with replicas of the original discs for sale on ebay now

So there is, I never knew repro 78s were made:

0w2VYqi.jpg

I can spot a 60s 7" repro a mile away, so I suppose a 78 collector could easily spot these as being repros too.

I didn't know these things existed either.

That looks amazing.

Actually, they would not make it to 45worlds78 RPM. These were "10-inch 45-RPM Replicas of Original Vocalion Records", see Robert Johnson - The Complete Original Masters - Centennial Edition.


  2nd Sep 2014, 3:33 PM#16  REPORT  
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Ah... sneaky. And disappointing.


  2nd Sep 2014, 4:49 PM#17  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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fixbutte wrote:
These were "10-inch 45-RPM Replicas of Original Vocalion Records".

ICK! YUCKY! :angry:

If I were a Robert Johnson fan, I'd feel totally ripped off. Given that most of his fans are 78 rpm people anyway, I can't understand why these didn't get released as such. Non-78 people would no doubt buy a CD of the tracks

Makes about as much sense as the RSD Capitol 78 of Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys!

Amy


  3rd Sep 2014, 10:58 AM#18  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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The labels look a little too large too.

That said, i must admit I quite like the look of this set... better than paying all that cash for one dubious purchase from dubious vendor, that you'd be scared to play if it is the real deal!


  3rd Sep 2014, 1:46 PM#19  REPORT  
zabadak

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I hear ya but one of the reasons I find 10" singles appealing is that they look like 78s... :happy:


  3rd Sep 2014, 1:51 PM#20  REPORT  
nboldock

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zabadak wrote:
I hear ya but one of the reasons I find 10" singles appealing is that they look like 78s... :happy:

I quite like 10" singles (and albums for that matter) too. They have a bit of charm about them.


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