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  2nd Jan 2013, 2:28 PM#1  REPORT  
carryonsidney

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I think we might need a users thread of tips for taking photos of the sleeves.

I had a lot of problems doing a set of motorhead sleeves, shot in daylight, because of the mimimum distance to focus in order the whole sleeve in the frame I found they were quite reflective? Very awkward!


  2nd Jan 2013, 4:56 PM#2  REPORT  
Col Wolfe

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PC World have 13" scanners for £30 at the moment!


  2nd Jan 2013, 7:46 PM#3  REPORT  
sladesounds

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I had a look on the web (nearest PC World is about 40 miles away) and no cheap ones showing up.

However I have just bought a new printer and tested a mouse scanner so I thought I would let you all know.

LG Mouse Scanner available for around £50 - waste of time, very clever bit of software and nice mouse however it can't cope with something as large as a 12" cover - basically as far this site goes a waste of time and my one is heading to ebay.

What I did buy however was an A3+ Epson WF7515 from Tesco direct for £129. Perfect (and the ink is cheap). The scanner actually only scans A3 not A3+ size (297 × 420 mm) however using Paint.net two scans merge together quiet easily to produce a full cover scan with some nice results.

This scan
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is two scans joined with the join around the letter "N" in the bands name.


Edited by sladesounds on 2nd Jan 2013, 7:48 PM

  2nd Jan 2013, 10:11 PM#4  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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Col, do you have a model number or link for that £30 scanner?


  2nd Jan 2013, 11:14 PM#5  REPORT  
Col Wolfe

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Orbiting Cat wrote:
Col, do you have a model number or link for that £30 scanner?

I'll be popping back in to pick one up on Friday as I didn't have any cash/cards on me when I saw them. Will report back then. I think it was one of the cheaper brands - possibly Epson - and a flatbed


  3rd Jan 2013, 3:52 PM#6  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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If you need to photograph a record, try to position it in indirect bright light, don't use flash, and position the camera accurately above and central to the record. Try to support the camera firmly or use the time delay setting to avoid shake from pressing the shutter
When editing photos of records or sleeves, the image sizes will vary, so attention to the resizing percentage is needed. Photos often show a perspective view, with trapezoidal distortion of the image, and some correction can be made (paint.NET) within the rotate/zoom dialog box (CTRL + SHIFT + Z) by using the 'Roll-ball' with care. The effect can be seen in this image

Edited by Juke Jules on 3rd Jan 2013, 3:54 PM

  3rd Jan 2013, 8:46 PM#7  REPORT  
Hawkmarty SUBS

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I have found that the TEXT setting gives the best resolution but you need to do s bit of colour balancing afterwards.


  7th Jan 2013, 1:32 PM#8  REPORT  
headcoat

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Col Wolfe wrote:
PC World have 13" scanners for £30 at the moment!

Any idea on the model name and number of these?

I have just read a thread and the scanners don't appear to exist, it did turn into a bit of a farce towards the end :) link


  8th Jan 2013, 3:03 PM#9  REPORT  
goodbear66

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Just revived the camera and biggest problems per Juke Jules are indeed regulating the outside light source and being set dead centre over the sleeve when shooting. Two or three attempts may be necessary but it does work.


  8th Jan 2013, 6:27 PM#10  REPORT  
deepinder cheema

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This is going to be a major issue here. The cartoon of a Dalek seeking dominion of the universe encountering a staircase comes to mind. If push comes to shove then the only option is for interested parties to make a 13" scanner as it seems clear the major electrical companies have let slip with their market research


  9th Jan 2013, 9:31 AM#11  REPORT  
nboldock

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I'm gonna have me a go at some image stitching tonight and see how it goes...


  9th Jan 2013, 10:36 AM#12  REPORT  
henry29

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Magix Print Studio has a part for doing the same. you put In two half's of a sleeve. and It put It together Automatically.H.


  9th Jan 2013, 10:43 AM#13  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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I tried this image stitching and there seems to be an issue with my scanner
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Something has changed re the colour or brightness between the two scans
Oh well, not to worry

Edited by Juke Jules on 9th Jan 2013, 10:46 AM

  10th Jan 2013, 12:47 PM#14  REPORT  
carryonsidney

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I've changed my technique and got a noticeably better result.
1] Im photoing the records flat on a table beside the window in daylight
2] I have the room light switched on
3] turn off the camera flash

That kills most of the unwanted reflection

Now I am using an old Nikon coolpix which has a handy fold out monitor screen on it so I have the focus set as standard [ie dont use the zoom] and I have tried to get the camera as square onto the flat record as possible. This ideally needs a tripod which can tilt the camera to a full 90 degrees and hold it steady, I think.
I have redone the following Motorhead records - Ace of Spades and the back of "Beer Drinkers".

Edited by carryonsidney on 10th Jan 2013, 12:48 PM

  10th Jan 2013, 5:45 PM#15  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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That's as good as any scanner now, CoS! Glazed black is quite the most difficult artwork because of all the reflections


  13th Jan 2013, 6:14 PM#16  REPORT  
Col Wolfe

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headcoat wrote:
Col Wolfe wrote:
PC World have 13" scanners for £30 at the moment!

Any idea on the model name and number of these?

They're definitely Epson but had sold out at the Cambridge store by the time I went back. Despite the unit being 13", the actual screen size was max to A3 paper size, which is a little too small to take 12" records, apparently :rolleyes:


  13th Jan 2013, 7:46 PM#17  REPORT  
thatsunday

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I bought myself a A3 scanner (420x297mm) which is a little bit too small for a fullsize scan but in most cases the important parts of the artwork can be scanned in one go.
The only problem is that the scan isn't a square image ie 700x700 pixels but something like 700x735 pixels. Sometimes I need to do two scans and stitch them with Microsoft ICE, for example when text would get get lost when doing one scan only.
I hope that my "non-square" scans look okay and not too odd!?


  13th Jan 2013, 7:59 PM#18  REPORT  
Billy Two

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I think your scans are fine TS. It looks like this site won't be able to be as fussy about scans as 45Cat, as so few people have full size scanners...


  15th Jan 2013, 12:04 PM#19  REPORT  
doowopmike

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Billy Two wrote:
I think your scans are fine TS. It looks like this site won't be able to be as fussy about scans as 45Cat, as so few people have full size scanners...

You reckon record collectors won't be as pedantic as on 45 cat. Sir I admire your optimisim :laugh:


  15th Jan 2013, 12:49 PM#20  REPORT  
Billy Two

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People can be as pedantic as they like - but if we ain't got the scanners, we ain't got the scanners ! :sad:



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