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  20th Jun 2013, 12:05 PM#21  REPORT  
musicmasters

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personally I'd like to see a country of manufacture field and a separate country of release field
a lot of UK only CD singles have been pressed in various European plants over the years - the main ones seem to be Netherlands, Germany, France, Austria and even Switzerland
Even the sleeves/labels can be misleading by saying made in the EU, when if you look at the actual disc they give the actual name of the pressing plant - only today I spotted one of these in this website, it's been put in the EU section as it says "Made In The EU" on the case insert, but the disc clearly says "EMI Uden" - which is in the Netherlands, yet the disc was produced exclusively for the UK market.

I did find this useful page on a website which gives info. on where the CDs were pressed - http://syldalan.free.fr/plants.html

All I know is, I'd like to see all UK releases i.e. the ones sold here with UK catalogue numbers marked as UK, with a separate field for country of manufacture - after all the "EU" is not a country, merely a trading region.


  20th Jun 2013, 1:53 PM#22  REPORT  
nboldock

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A further problem is that the presence of a UK catalogue number does not mean it is exclusively a UK release. It may just mean that there is a distinct catalogue number for the UK as opposed to other European countries, and this is quite common.

I think we have to accept that we are probably never going to have the whole "Europe" issue exactly right and we are always going to have releases under the wrong flag, but we do the best we can to keep it under control. Plus we do of course make corrections as soon as possible, as and when they are flagged (no pun intended) up.

Whilst I can see the argument for an option to enter country of manufacture AND country(-ies) of release, I do think that would actually cause more problems than it would solve, and causes unnecessary complications when one of 45Worlds/Cat's goals is to remain as user-friendly as possible and accessible to as many people as possible also.


Edited by nboldock on 20th Jun 2013, 1:54 PM

  22nd Jun 2013, 3:44 PM#23  REPORT  
An6y66

Member since Jul 2012
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EDIT
sorry I answered my own question


Edited by An6y66 on 22nd Jun 2013, 4:04 PM

  25th Jun 2013, 2:31 PM#24  REPORT  
Dr Doom SUBS

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musicmasters wrote:
personally I'd like to see a country of manufacture field and a separate country of release field

We prototyped this on 45cat and it didn't work at all well.

:sad:

I think it's handy information to add to notes.

i.e.

Manufactured in Austria but a German release etc. etc.


  16th Oct 2013, 6:12 PM#25  REPORT  
An6y66

Member since Jul 2012
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Can 12'' world have Chile added please


  16th Oct 2013, 6:19 PM#26  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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An6y66 wrote:
Can 12'' world have Chile added please

Done!


  16th Oct 2013, 6:59 PM#27  REPORT  
An6y66

Member since Jul 2012
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Cheers :)


  20th Apr 2014, 9:29 PM#28  REPORT  
harley

Member since Dec 2010
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Could you please add Czech Republic.


  23rd Apr 2014, 7:46 PM#29  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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harley wrote:
Could you please add Czech Republic.

Czech Republic added. Just a note that the country should be where the CD was released, even if that means Europe. Sometime Czech Republic was just where the CD was manufactured.


  24th Apr 2014, 11:48 AM#30  REPORT  
PhilMH

Member since Jan 2012
1054 Points
Can we have International for vinyl albums, please? I have the somewhat unusual (i.e. I've never seen another one) combination of European and South African WEA companies on Womack & Womack's LOVE WARS.


  24th Apr 2014, 1:20 PM#31  REPORT  
nboldock

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PhilMH wrote:
Can we have International for vinyl albums, please? I have the somewhat unusual (i.e. I've never seen another one) combination of European and South African WEA companies on Womack & Womack's LOVE WARS.

That's certainly an odd one...


  24th Aug 2014, 3:40 PM#32  REPORT  
GEMSMFAN

Member since Jan 2013
3324 Points
Can you add Taiwan.. I added a CD album which comes with a bonus CD single.

Edited by GEMSMFAN on 24th Aug 2014, 4:18 PM

  27th Aug 2014, 3:01 PM#33  REPORT  
guineapig

Member since Aug 2014
65 Points
nboldock wrote:
A further problem is that the presence of a UK catalogue number does not mean it is exclusively a UK release. It may just mean that there is a distinct catalogue number for the UK as opposed to other European countries, and this is quite common.

I think we have to accept that we are probably never going to have the whole "Europe" issue exactly right and we are always going to have releases under the wrong flag, but we do the best we can to keep it under control. Plus we do of course make corrections as soon as possible, as and when they are flagged (no pun intended) up.

Whilst I can see the argument for an option to enter country of manufacture AND country(-ies) of release, I do think that would actually cause more problems than it would solve, and causes unnecessary complications when one of 45Worlds/Cat's goals is to remain as user-friendly as possible and accessible to as many people as possible also.


If I notice duplications that have the same catalogue number but list different countries, so need to be combined under a "Europe" country, or need to change a single country to "Europe", where do I report this? I have tried using "make a correction" but it has been ignored and had no feedback.


  28th Aug 2014, 6:32 PM#34  REPORT  
TheJudge

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There is a backlog in the CD albums corrections queue at the moment. Don't worry; it hasn't been forgotten - one of us will get to it eventually. :happy:


  30th Aug 2014, 6:06 PM#35  REPORT  
Trainman

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OK, here's a fun one.

Vinyl LP (normally Kiri Te Kanawa would go in Classical, but she's singing Broadway showt unes)

Label is London Digital, copyright Decca (UK), recorrded by Decca in the UK, manufactured in Holland, but intended for the US market under the London label.

country?

I'd be inclined to call it US like the London releases of Decca (UK) in the 50;s and 60's





  30th Aug 2014, 6:23 PM#36  REPORT  
sladesounds

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Trainman wrote:
intended for the US market under the London label.
country?
I'd be inclined to call it US like the London releases of Decca (UK) in the 50;s and 60's

Intended for the USA market then USA it is.


  12th Mar 2016, 11:58 PM#37  REPORT  
xiphophilos

Member since Dec 2013
3349 Points
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User tkonst requests a flag icon for Austria-Hungary (needed for some pre-1918 releases). Could you please add that?

An image of the flag is available at
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/austria-hungary-1869-1918.jpg


  13th Mar 2016, 1:14 PM#38  REPORT  
TheJudge

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I've asked this on the Mods Forum and am waiting to see what the consensus is.


  25th Apr 2016, 12:29 PM#39  REPORT  
Jake Smarm

Member since Jul 2015
621 Points
HELP! Having finished adding my 7'' single collection to 45cat I thought I would start on CD Singles (a much bigger job), but while looking at the first one, (ABC) I found a mythical country called Europe which several ABC singles had been added to. Whilst I bought mine all in the UK and consider them all to be UK singles, what is the criteria for deciding whether they should be UK or Europe? Very confusing.


  25th Apr 2016, 1:36 PM#40  REPORT  
sladesounds

Turning rebellion into money since 1962
Member since Nov 2009
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Jake Smarm wrote:
HELP! Having finished adding my 7'' single collection to 45cat I thought I would start on CD Singles (a much bigger job), but while looking at the first one, (ABC) I found a mythical country called Europe which several ABC singles had been added to. Whilst I bought mine all in the UK and consider them all to be UK singles, what is the criteria for deciding whether they should be UK or Europe? Very confusing.

Jake if not sure initially enter them as UK singles (do a search for cat#/barcode first to make sure they have not been entered as an International or European issue).

If a member later states the same disc with same barcode/cat # was also available for purchase in other countries a Mod can change the country to reflect this.



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