Vinyl Album - The Beatles - Abbey Road - Apple

Vinyl Album

Artist:	The Beatles
Title:	Abbey Road
Label:	Apple
Country:	USA
Catalogue:	SO-383 / SJ-383
Date:	1 Oct 1969
Format:	LP
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	90 Own, 1 Wants
Price Guide:	$26
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PRICE GUIDE

$26

Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A1	The Beatles	Come Together	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
A2	The Beatles	Something	George Harrison	10.0 Rate
A3	The Beatles	Maxwell's Silver Hammer	Lennon, McCartney	8.0 Rate
A4	The Beatles	Oh! Darling	Lennon, McCartney	9.5 Rate
A5	The Beatles	Octopus's Garden	Richard Starkey	9.7 Rate
A6	The Beatles	I Want You (She's So Heavy)	Lennon, McCartney	9.0 Rate
B1	The Beatles	Here Comes The Sun	George Harrison	10.0 Rate
B2	The Beatles	Because	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
B3	The Beatles	You Never Give Me Your Money	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
B4	The Beatles	Sun King	Lennon, McCartney	9.5 Rate
B5	The Beatles	Mean Mr. Mustard	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
B6	The Beatles	Polythene Pam	Lennon, McCartney	9.5 Rate
B7	The Beatles	She Came In Through The Bathroom Window	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
B8	The Beatles	Golden Slumbers	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
B9	The Beatles	Carry That Weight	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
B10	The Beatles	The End	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate
B11	The Beatles	Her Majesty	Lennon, McCartney	10.0 Rate

Notes

-- all tracks produced by George Martin

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Comments and Reviews


W.B.lbl 7th Apr 2024		As you can see, I go by a lot of criteria - pressing rings are one, the higher lacquer numbers compared with early pressings are another. But glad you could confirm your copy was later.



GimmeVinyl 15th Mar 2024		The results are in.. my Winchester pressing has the 35 mm pressing ring, on the B side it is very noticeable. On the B side you can also see the 13 mm ring quite clearly. Matrix numbers as follows.. SO-1-383-A27, SO-2-F26#2. With the info at hand, I'm lead to believe that my copy is definitely after 1970... The 1971 repress. Yeah, I was hoping for the illusive "second pressing".. but no dice. Still, it has the sound that George Martin had intended, and not a remaster.



GimmeVinyl 14th Mar 2024		Thank you W.B.lbl for the info... I wasn't going by the pressing rings, I was going by matrix numbers. I may have been just a wee bit confused, by mixing up "second pressing" with the '71 repress. In this case, one cannot go by the label, nor the jacket to put a date on it.. to me, they both look identical. They both have the access box on the front, and they both list Her Majesty on the back and on the label of side 2. Now, I've made up a list of both of the Winchester matrix numbers from the listings I have seen, which I will compare with the copy that I've purchased. With this info, and the info of the pressing rings, I should be able to establish just which copy I own...



W.B.lbl 14th Mar 2024		Any first-pressings from Winchester would have had a pressing ring of between 38.0mm and 38.5mm, just as the other three plants. It was around 1970 that it was set at between 35.0 and 35.5 mm, but as a borderline "deep groove" with an outer diameter of usually 37.5mm. If you have a ruler with metric measurements divided into 0.5mm, please double check the pressing ring dimensions. Side 1 after 1970 would have also had a smaller ring of between 9.5 and 10.0mm, and Side 2 about 13.5mm. If the pressing ring is 35.0 to 35.5mm, then Discogs would be in the right to call you on dating it as 1969. As to the 'P14' dash numbers you cite: That would have been cut around '71 by Capitol's New York studios, before that set of Scully 601's ('P' was the master, 'T' the slave) was replaced with a singular Neumann VMS-66 lathe that cut lacquers with 'R#' dash numbers. As of 1969, most stereo New York lacquers were cut with 'W' or 'X' dash numbers.



GimmeVinyl 14th Mar 2024		I'm being told that the second pressing copies from Winchester weren't released until 1971.. with matrix # starting at SO-1-383-P14 and SO-2-383-P14... I'm going to have to double check the matrix #s on my Winchester pressing for verification. I got scolded on Discogs for changing the year of the Winchester second pressing from 1971 to 1969. Does anyone have irrefutable proof that the second pressing is indeed from late '69 or early '70?



GimmeVinyl 13th Mar 2024		Umm... The small squarish thing that is imbedded into the pavement below Ringo and John's foot... Is this the "drain"? To me it looks like some sort of access cover..



GimmeVinyl 10th Mar 2024		Just picked up a nice Winchester copy today... It has Her Majesty on the back, but I don't see a street drain.. it matches the jacket listed.



DexterMiller 20th Jun 2020		A sleeve combining the elongated front photo showing the street drain WITH "Her Majesty" included on the back, is the rare American second pressing (from approx. November 1969 - January 1970).



dr.pepper1952 15th Jul 2018		add another Labels MFD. on Side 1 and not on Side 2



Vinyl Fan 17th May 2018		Added Los Angeles label scans fmc.



Vinyl Fan 8th May 2018		Added RCA Rockaway label scans fmc.



musictom SUBS 2nd Nov 2017		Jock_Girl: Interesting. During the late '60s-early '70s, I worked at a college radio station. Capitol did service us for free. But they were not as liberal as WEA or RCA. Most albums had a rather large hole punched in the corner. Incidentally retailers did not punch holes in albums to discount them. Manufacturers did that and dumped them into the distribution channels.



BEATLEJOHN 9th Oct 2017		Jock-Girl...okay this sounds reasonable! ....I knew though there were no "official" promo copies of The US White Album , Abbey Road and Hey Jude Lp's.............At Capitol, anything you left the building with {New York and Hollywood...I'm not too sure about the pressing plants} if it wasn't a promo (Lp's, 8-tracks, Cassettes, CD's and sometimes singles) it usually got punched or drilled/sliced, so it wasn't considered "stolen" and you couldn't re-sell it....John



Jock_Girl 7th Oct 2017		A friend of mine worked as a DJ at small U.S. radio station in the mid 1970s. He has told me that while Capitol didn't regularly service them with promos because they were only a 500 watt small town station, they could buy records at a price of 25 cents per single and $1.25 per LP. Those LPs did have a punch hole.



BEATLEJOHN 7th Oct 2017		Abbey Road was never officially "cut-out", If it was returned, it would be returned to Capitol (Apple) and destroyed...There are no "promo" copies -but!- it's possible that some copies leaving Capitol Records in New York or Hollywood could have been "punched" before leaving the building (to prove they haven't been stolen)............or you have a mid70s bootleg!....John



ppint. 4th Oct 2017		the cut-out (may be a punched hole, may be a saw cut, may be a fair-sized corner cut off) stopped the retailer attempting to return remaindered stock bought cheap to their supplier - or wholesaler, to their supplier - (usually the record companies) for credit; it could also have been cut by the supplier's sales rep to indicate that credit had been given for the notional return, where the record title had been deleted and requiring the full sound copy return would have served no purpose as it then couldn't've been checked and put back into stock for resale as new.



TopPopper 3rd Oct 2017		Holes don't mean promo - they are a retailer's method of discounting stock which they hadn't sold. They would make a hole in the corner of sleeve and/or the label area of the actual disc, and then sell at a reduced price. The point of the hole was to prevent the buyer waiting until the price dropped before buying. The hole would encourage them to buy it at full price. Also meant the store could tell whether it was sold at a discount, in the event of refunds etc.



DebbieSmith 3rd Oct 2017		my copy is a promo, manufacture hole top right



Vinylville 27th Jan 2016		Reissued in 1984 as Capitol SJ-383.



W.B.lbl 27th Oct 2015		Certainly RCA did; I have an Indianapolis variant, and have seen a Rockaway deep groove with the same type as {Images #682295 & 682298}.



TheDroid 27th Oct 2015		There is no symbol in the deadwax indicating Monarch or other plant that I recognize. Side One has SO-1-383 F-36 inscribed and Side Two hasSO-2-383-A-37 on it. I know I have read that both RCA and Columbia also pressed this album.



W.B.lbl 26th Oct 2015		{Images #870335 & 870336} would have been theoretically from the first-run pressing prior to the addition of "Her Majesty" on the latter label, but I have to ask: Which L.A.-area plant would Capitol have subcontracted that pressing to, given the pressing ring of 2.875" diameter as opposed to their own 1.5"? Research Craft? Fidelatone? Monarch? United/Superior?



TheDroid 26th Oct 2015		Added alternate label variant image. Side two label does not include "Her Majesty".



kab2112 SUBS 27th Apr 2015		Gold Disc scan added