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Member	Item		Review/Comment
Lee Wrecker 27th Jul 2019		CD Album Ann Peebles - The Hi Records Masters (1998)	I only have two Phil but I have seen all but two of the others listed in the liner notes so I assume that was just my bad luck and they were actually available. I do also remember Shock being the distributor for Hi here so I find it strange they don't show up In Platterlog.
Lee Wrecker 27th Jul 2019		CD Album Ann Peebles - The Hi Records Masters (1998)	This series "The Hi Records Masters" were all released in Australia.
Lee Wrecker 27th Jul 2019		CD Album Canned Heat - Uncanned! (1995)	Hi Phil, thanks for the correct date information. I just went with what's on the packaging. Speaking of which EMI were notorious for shoddy make-overs of the original packaging whether it came from the USA or the EU. Often leaving the "made in ....." information untouched all over Australian releases as is the case here. Some idiot on Discogs has even pilfered my images from here and listed this as a USA release on the strength of what's written on the packaging. The USA release had a cat# of D 203377 according to Discwrongs so who's to know. I'll send a correction on the date though and that will make this the best entry of this CD in the world. I'm not joking. You may be right about the USA version being available here earlier as I distinctly remember seeing this available with a different cover (the US cover) which uses the image on the inlay on this version rather band in front of the bus (EU & Australian versions). There could even be a later Australian re-issue with USA rather than EU artwork but at least that would match the "made in the USA" data on the back inlay. Did I say "sloppy artwork" before?
Lee Wrecker 26th Jul 2019		CD Album Canned Heat - Uncanned! (1995)	Linked to other version and added secondary cat# which runs downwards from the right hand side of the barcode box on the back inlay. Sent a correction for the missing composer on B-10 - I don't know what happened there?
Lee Wrecker 26th Jul 2019		CD Album k.d. lang - Shadowland (1988)	Added the missing booklet scans to this one. This Australian edition has three variations on the cat# 9 25724-2 on the spine, 9 25724 2 on the CD and 9257242 above the barcode box. I used the 9257242 cat# as the secondary cat as it is common practice for Australian releases to compress EU or USA cat#s to a single string of digits omitting any spaces or hyphens. I don't why we do this down here but we do. It is also very common for Australian CDs to have multiple derivations (more than two) of cat#s such as is the case here. EMI and Warner's are the worst offenders for reproducing sloppy artwork with overseas cat#s and Australia specific cat#s on the same product. Whatever the reason it doesn't make it easy to enter CDs when they have so many versions of the cat# on them.
Lee Wrecker 14th Jul 2019		CD Album Basement Jaxx - The Singles (2005)	Is the XL label a UK independent like Domino or Creation? Or is it an international independent label that contradicts the definitions we use on the site of both international releases and independent labels. Martin Mills owns or controls a cartel of UK independent labels that include Mute, Rough Trade, 4AD, the Beggars Group and others. These are all released internationally but essentially UK independent labels. It's a conundrum isn't it? Send your answers on the back of a postage stamp to the dead letter office.
Lee Wrecker 14th Jul 2019		CD Album Scorpions - Blackout (1997)	When you search for an album Greg, the primary release usually comes up first but not always. So generally you will link to the primary release and everything will be fine. However, sometimes it doesn't and this is when partial links and drop-outs seem to appear in my experience. Then you need to find the primary release (can be difficult if not a MOD) which is generally the first version of that album loaded on the site. MODS can change the primary release if for instance the original release from the original country of release appears they may make that the primary release. Easier with LPs than CDs though as that knowledge is better known. This site also has a predilection to list either USA or EU items before other countries so if the primary release is for instance my Australian version of the same album it may not appear at the top of the list. I have experienced this myself and have sent corrections to change the primary release from my own entry to others from the EU or USA for the sake of convenience in the past. So in short, you're very lucky you've only come across this once linking from "Z to S" in your collection. It has happened to me many times but searching by the name of the actual album usually throws up the primary release first in my experience.
Lee Wrecker 14th Jul 2019		CD Album Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear (2019)	This most likely will be released here as well but I'm happy to have it listed as is regardless of where it is released. Just add "Also released in Lilliput and Blefuscu" to the notes if residents from these or other lands need recognition.
Lee Wrecker 13th Jul 2019		CD Album Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)	This was the Australian release as well as the UK and EU release. Different cat# DNO 219CD for the USA and different labels for South America.
Lee Wrecker 10th Jul 2019		CD Album Gorillaz - Demon Days (2005)	Thanks Phil, I'd already looked there and came up with nothing. The EMI edition is definitely from 2005 and is copy protected as well (big at the time thanks to Napster (2002) and other file sharing sites) whereas this one isn't. Also weird is the fact that this one uses the secondary cat# (or ordering cat#) from the other release as well. Surely Warner's wouldn't have released anything on Parlophone before 2013 though and why did they appropriate the secondary cat#? Maybe we could just start there? Or should we stick with what's on the tin. It is a bit of an odd one though.
Lee Wrecker 10th Jul 2019		CD Album Gorillaz - Demon Days (2005)	No Idea of real date here but it would be after 2013 when Warners bought EMI so I just went with the original 2005 release date on the tin till I know any better.
Lee Wrecker 7th Jul 2019		CD Album The Thrills - So Much For The City (2003)	Yes but the cat# 7243 5 84969 2 5 would also apply and that is a different issue and can be seen here.
Lee Wrecker 7th Jul 2019		CD Album The Thrills - So Much For The City (2003)	The barcode in the image 325363 is 724358496826 and this album was released in various places with cat# and barcode ending in a 5 rather than a 6 as it is here. So this entry is correct as is Quad5point1 but you are right in that other versions do exist with cat# 7243 5 84969 2 5 and a matching barcode but this is not one of them.
Lee Wrecker 1st Jul 2019		CD Album The White Stripes - Elephant (2003)	Greg, the USA version has the same orientation but uses a different shot from the photo session (cricket bat raised) so there are a lot of subtle and not so subtle differences with the various releases of this album. The US and UK LP releases have either Jack or Meg in different clothes to the shot used here. A nice touch design wise.
Lee Wrecker 30th Jun 2019		CD Album The White Stripes - Elephant (2003)	Disowned.
Lee Wrecker 30th Jun 2019		CD Album The White Stripes - Elephant (2003)	Added barcode will do booklet scans soon. Right, there in could you put images named Booklet 2-11 before the one named Back Cover like the linked release. Then this will be completely finished off too! Kinda weird that they reversed to cover shot on the Australian edition.
Lee Wrecker 30th Jun 2019		CD Album Michelle Shocked - Short Sharp Shocked (1988)	I see we're doing this at the same time! Could you shuffle the CD and inlay along once I put the missing scans in order Leonard. It'll take about 5 mins. All scans in now Leonard!! My goodness that was some speedy work and they all look much better now. Cheers.
Lee Wrecker 26th Jun 2019		CD Album Charles Wright And The Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band - Original Album Series (2010)	Yes. Leonard I understand but it does annoy me a little (a lot) that a many of my Australian manufactured CDs have been made international, mostly by me by the way thinking I was doing the right thing because that's what the MODS told me to do. Now, I find that most of the people that pushed for this system of entry have reverted to the much more sensible what's on the tin approach which I put forward in forums years ago and was howled down for at the time. I too went back to the "tin" method when I realised no one was really looking but now half my collection is lost in the international netherworld we've created. The result is that if I print out my CD catalogue it doesn't really make any sense or even accurately reflect the CDs I have. I know I was one of the early users of CD Albums world and the guidelines have since been proven to inadequate but can't we just change them to reflect how people actually enter CDs given what they have at hand. It would make life in this part of the site much simpler and get me off everyone's back harping on what's international or not according to the guidelines. The real reason I do this is to try and promote a change in the official method we use not because I actually support it. Personally, in life, I take pride in following the rules and playing fair and as you can see even follow them when I'm not particularly fond of them. Apologies to you and anyone else that's suffered through me raising the international issue at every given opportunity but my experience in this part of the site has left me a bit bitter and twisted. I can't wait for the day I never have to mention it again. Nice and cool down here in Australia at the moment Leonard (12 degrees at 8pm). By the way how far are through your collection you're certainly banging them in at a rate of knots? It just seems to be an endless supply to me.
Lee Wrecker 26th Jun 2019		CD Album Charles Wright And The Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band - Original Album Series (2010)	The entirety of "Original Album Series" is available worldwide (see review of a copy of this bought in Kuala Lumpur). All of these are available in Australia, Canada and the USA. This should be listed as international and the title changed to Original Album Series rather than Original Album Classics. We're you a bit tired when you put this one in Leonard?
Lee Wrecker 25th Jun 2019		CD Album Blondie - The Essential Collection (1999)	If you want to list this international release as from the UK (European, Australian and Canadian issues have the same details) you could at least use the UK cat# CD GOLD1091 to mark some differentiation between this and the other releases. The Canadian and European issues are identical and the Australian copy even carries the UK cat# as well but is technically different because it on the EMI label and not EMI Gold but may well have been released on EMI Gold as well because the EMI Gold series was released here as well. Welcome to the crazy world of CD entry mickgoater you were not to know the idiosyncrasies of the site before you started on this path but good luck if you stick with it.
Lee Wrecker 24th Jun 2019		CD Album Marvin Gaye - You're The Man (2019)	The Tamla label preceded Motown but Motown later became its parent label which was then sold to MCA (1988) and later PolyGram (1993) then they were all scooped up by Universal in 1999. So Universal is the owner and parent of all these labels now and can choose which label to use on their products. Here they've chosen the Tamla imprint on the actual CD so that's what the label should be. There is also perhaps a case for it to be listed as Tamla/Motown/Universal but it doesn't change the fact that the labels are the same and the cat#s and barcodes are also the same. Local releases of international CDs do not exist on this site otherwise everything made in a particular country for that market would be listed as from that country but this is not the case. It perhaps should be that way but it is not. Here the criteria for an international release are matching cat#, barcode and label and this is such a case. In my view these CDs need to merged and classified as international. Also, that the three of us can't agree on how to list this after collectively entering thousands of CDs is testimony to the fact that the processes we're using are not clear enough or fit for purpose. All the MODS and ADMINS that pushed for this system of entry have either back flipped, disappeared or just completely avoid the issue. It infuriates me that this part of the site has been left to go to rack and ruin by the very people that pushed for this system of entry and they have left the rest of us beating about the bush with the wrong of the stick. Three years ago I entered the Australian version of this CD. What's the difference in this case?
Lee Wrecker 23rd Jun 2019		CD Album Marvin Gaye - You're The Man (2019)	... and regardless of how the labels are listed they are also the same and both should be Tamla rather than what appears on this issue. So same label, cat# and barcode is not enough to make this international. What hope is there of anyone knowing how to list CDs properly. I wish I'd never seen the guidelines and just did what I liked like everyone else. I'm just glad I don't buy CDs anymore and I'm buggering off to vinyl albums land as soon as I finish this time wasting and worthless comment.
Lee Wrecker 22nd Jun 2019		CD Album The Corrs - Talk On Corners (1998)	Of Corrs they are much better than the existing images. Good job Quad5point1.
Lee Wrecker 15th Jun 2019		CD Album Tangerine Dream - Ricochet (2019)	Snap! gregs45s this my favourite Tangerine Dream album too.
Lee Wrecker 15th Jun 2019		CD Album Bette Midler - Original Album Series (2011)	What makes this a UK release? The other site has one listing for this set and that is listed as an EU release as per the packaging. However, as we don't list things the same way here it should be listed as international due to the global distribution of this series by Rhino/Warner Music Group. These five CD Box Set Original Album series should all be listed the same way but currently we have them listed as from UK, EU and international. There was some agreement that they be listed as international a while back but the theory doesn't seem to have turned into practice. One problem is that it is often a lack of evidence that indicates a CD is international. The link above is a classic case of this. It is listed as from the EU on the other site as per the packaging which might make you think that this in an EU only release but that is not the case. In this case the complete lack of any other versions indicates that this version was shipped globally rather than it was only available in the EU. But how's anybody meant to know by looking at the packaging and other listings on the net? Unfortunately, you can't. Here is a list of the Original Album Series available for sale in the USA with no reference to the item being an import. This site specifically lists imports (ie. the Ace catalogue) if the product is not available in the USA.
Lee Wrecker 13th Jun 2019		CD Album Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads (1996)	I agree with gregs45s on the listing of this as a bootleg of the Murder Ballads album. The cat# LCD STUMM 138 was originally used for the EU digipak version of this album and it does not look anything like this. It is most likely Greg is right about this being a Russian bootleg.
Lee Wrecker 6th Jun 2019		CD Album Bonzo Dog Band - The Bestiality Of Bonzo Dog Band (1990)	Hi Phil, thanks for that information my guess is this was a case of what you outline points 2 & 3 of your comment. It was bought at JB and they did some parallel imports and also ordered through globally available catalogues as far as I know. It may have had a sticker on it when I bought it but as I said before I have since given it away and also I don't keep that outer shrinkwrap that JB traditionally coat their products with. The question really is what was the intent of the label with regard to this release and that's to difficult a question to answer or is it? Anyway no-one cares about this stuff other than you and I Phil.
Lee Wrecker 5th Jun 2019		CD Album Bonzo Dog Band - The Bestiality Of Bonzo Dog Band (1990)	I bought this one in Australia years ago but since have given it away, after buying Cornology incidentally but the fact remains this was available in Australia and therefore...
Lee Wrecker 5th Jun 2019		CD Album The Flaming Lips - At War With The Mystics (2006)	I must have put this up years ago but neglected to post the actual CD image. Went back to my files and it was there edited up and ready to go. The Australian release has the same digits in the cat# as the EU release but just in a single string 9362499662 rather than 9362-49966-2 as it appears on the EU version. The barcode 9325583035753 is unique (I think) to the Australian release. Thanks to Quad5point1 for redoing the images on the EU release which brought my attention to my own, now complete entry. Cheers all round.
Lee Wrecker 28th Apr 2019		CD Album The Isley Brothers - The Motown Anthology (2009)	Could it get more confusing? The label code LC5064 as appears on the rim text for this disc is for the Spectrum label. The policy of the site has (so far) been to list labels from boutique to major. So with that in mind I think Phil is correct to point out that the label here should be Motown. Why it is not actually on the Spectrum label is a mystery to me but that's the way it is for some reason. If we went the path suggested by the judge everything (well almost) would be Sony, Universal or Warners.

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