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  17th Mar 2023, 11:46 PM#1  REPORT  
GimmeVinyl

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Sorry to rant, but... How many of us vinyl collectors have ever heard or read the very incorrect term of a record collection being referred to as.. "vinyls"?? To me, it doesn't even SOUND correct! Is it just me, or has anyone else that is part of our community that is fed up with this incorrect terminology "vinyls"? Hey bub... The correct term is vinyl, whether it is singular, or plural. Now, if you want to say that I own records, I'm fine with that. Or.. I own a LP collection, or a collection of LPs.. those would work. I also own "shellac".. and thank God no one says "shellacs" .. not even my phone likes that one! Once again, one could say I have a collection of 78s... Or have a 78 RPM record collection. Same goes for my collection of 45 RPM singles, which definitely are in the plural and not just singular. But let me make myself perfectly clear... I do not have "vinyls"!!!


  18th Mar 2023, 2:14 AM#2  REPORT  
zabadak

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Styrenes? :erk:


  18th Mar 2023, 2:30 AM#3  REPORT  
annaloog

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Quote:
... no one says "shellacs" ....
Or "waxes". :eek:


  18th Mar 2023, 7:07 AM#4  REPORT  
Hawkmarty SUBS

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As a qualified polymer chemist what really makes me wince is vynil. Shudder.


  18th Mar 2023, 8:39 AM#5  REPORT  
Steel-River-Wet SUBS

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Hawkmarty wrote:
As a qualified polymer chemist what really makes me wince is vynil. Shudder.

Agreed a THOUSAND per cent Hawkmarty. (I've seen our records described as that many times since the internet became widely used). Makes my 'Pish' (used as a Scottish term) boil. GRRR!


  18th Mar 2023, 3:35 PM#6  REPORT  
carryonsidney

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The use of "vynils" in adverts makes me laugh every time.


  19th Mar 2023, 3:44 PM#7  REPORT  
Paul Vinyl

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Walking round a car boot sale a few weeks ago, some late teens were saying "I'm going to buy some Vynils today" made me smile, in my day it was going to buy some records.


  19th Mar 2023, 4:41 PM#8  REPORT  
getalife

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Is, “l have a collection of vinyl records” acceptable, or “l have a vinyl record collection”.


  19th Mar 2023, 5:49 PM#9  REPORT  
GimmeVinyl

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getalife wrote:
Is, “l have a collection of vinyl records” acceptable, or “l have a vinyl record collection”.
Oh... Absolutely! Just don't put an "s" after vinyl....


  23rd Mar 2023, 12:42 AM#10  REPORT  
W.B.lbl

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GimmeVinyl wrote:
How many of us vinyl collectors have ever heard or read the very incorrect term of a record collection being referred to as.. "vinyls"??
Believe it or not, RCA itself, in the 1950's, used "vinyls" as the term for 45's and LP's - to distinguish them from the 78 format which used shellac. I saw it in some publications they put out in the '50's that are on the World Radio History site. Not saying it's correct, but . . . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They also used "TP" as an abbreviation for "test pattern." But that's for another subject and thread and time.


  23rd Mar 2023, 4:06 PM#11  REPORT  
xiphophilos

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Webster's Third New International Dictionary (unabridged edition, 1986) also gives the plural of vinyl as vinyls.

I think when you talk about the material, you may want to avoid the plural, but when you talk about vinyl records, there is no reason not to say vinyls.

Vinyls may be a bit slangy still, but hey, it's the users that determine what is correct grammar. Languages are not dead artifacts, but continually developing. And that may mean that even the abomination that is the spelling of vinyl as "vynal" (which I see in Craigslist postings all the time) could at some point be adopted as a valid alternative spelling by Merriam Webster (di melius!).

Edited by xiphophilos on 23rd Mar 2023, 4:13 PM

  23rd Mar 2023, 7:44 PM#12  REPORT  
GimmeVinyl

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Well, hello there my friend! I see there is quite a bit of a debate over this particular subject when one punches in "the plural to vinyl is"... And also the Oxford English Dictionary does not support changing the plural to vinyl to "vinyls".. so it depends on which dictionary one uses as a reference. Another point is where many grammar specialists treat the word "vinyl" as a mass noun, just like the words beer, cheese, fish, sheep, and deer, which do not use a plural and as such do not have an "s"... Ah, the debate continues!


  23rd Mar 2023, 7:56 PM#13  REPORT  
getalife

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Ah, the debate continues!

If the subjects are I, we, you and they the verb form would be 'continue'. If the subjects are He, She and It, the verb form would be 'continues'. :read:


  31st Mar 2023, 6:46 PM#14  REPORT  
Malcyramone SUBS

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I always thought 'vinyls' were sold by carpet shops.


  31st Mar 2023, 8:50 PM#15  REPORT  
Hawkmarty SUBS

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Cheese is a weird one.
I like my cheese.
There are 4 different cheeses on my plate.


  31st Mar 2023, 8:53 PM#16  REPORT  
Hawkmarty SUBS

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Vinyl is a descriptor of a specific chemical moiety.
A compound can have a multiple of vinyl groups but not vinyls.


  3rd Apr 2023, 12:26 PM#17  REPORT  
Malcyramone SUBS

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Hawkmarty wrote:
Cheese is a weird one.
I like my cheese.
There are 4 different cheeses on my plate.

Same with fruit.


  12th Apr 2023, 10:36 PM#18  REPORT  
pinkleton123

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GimmeVinyl wrote:
let me make myself perfectly clear... I do not have "vinyls"!!!

You should get some. Vinyls sound much better than CDs.


  14th Apr 2023, 11:20 PM#19  REPORT  
GimmeVinyl

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Hawkmarty wrote:
Cheese is a weird one.
I like my cheese.
There are 4 different cheeses on my plate.
Ahh... Cheese. If you were to have say, a dinner party, or have some friends over for a wine tasting party, I would offer "Would you care for some cheese? I have several varieties.."


  14th Apr 2023, 11:28 PM#20  REPORT  
GimmeVinyl

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pinkleton123 wrote:
GimmeVinyl wrote:
let me make myself perfectly clear... I do not have "vinyls"!!!

You should get some. Vinyls sound much better than CDs.
Lol... But I do! I own well over 900 of those circular discs that we once referred to as records... And that does include records of the 78 RPM variety that is pressed in shellac..


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